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charlie cleveland
12-31-2013, 08:58 PM
was just flippen through some old 8 ga stuff on the net and run across this question on a parker...was there ever a gun made with 8 ga barrels and ten ga barrels for the sams gun.funny it was a lady that asked this question..how about it fellows did somebody order a gun set up like this.. charlie
Rick Losey
12-31-2013, 09:11 PM
was just flippen through some old 8 ga stuff on the net and run across this question on a parker...was there ever a gun made with 8 ga barrels and ten ga barrels for the sams gun.funny it was a lady that asked this question..how about it fellows did somebody order a gun set up like this.. charlie
i expect you are more likely to find an 8 gauge rebarreled to 10 after the ban
but that would be a heck of a set for the traveling waterfowler
charlie cleveland
01-01-2014, 11:25 AM
would be kinda of an unusal barrel arrangement..but i would certainly order one if i could... charlie...
Mills Morrison
01-01-2014, 06:39 PM
James Julia's had several 8 gauges for auction a few years ago and one was an 8-10 two barrel set. It was pretty nice
Bill Murphy
01-01-2014, 07:10 PM
Mills, that would have ended your search. I would like to find a set of #6 frame barrels, even if it was only the breech section.
Mills Morrison
01-01-2014, 07:18 PM
It would, but the catalog was just a back issue our gun club just let me have. If I remember right, the gun had Damascus 8 gauge barrels of some obscene length and the 10 gauge were Parker steel 32' and probably added later. Grade 2 hammerless. Nice gun
charlie cleveland
01-01-2014, 07:18 PM
well at least i know one set of these were made now..thanks mills... charlie
Mills Morrison
01-01-2014, 08:10 PM
The catalog is at my parents' place, otherwise I would get it out and post the particulars here. It is an interesting question. I have a GH 12 gauge with two sets of barrels (one Damascus and one twist) that have the same serial number and must have been made for the gun, but the letter only shows the Damascus set. I wonder how many other similar two barrel sets are out there?
George Lander
01-02-2014, 11:56 PM
Charlie & Mills: I have a CH grade with the original Bernard Steel barrels & another set of Titanic Barrels with the same SN. The letter states that the 1899 Parker was sent back in 1902 for cleaning, adjusting and adding the Titanic barrels.
Best Regards, George
Mills Morrison
01-03-2014, 08:50 AM
Charlie & Mills: I have a CH grade with the original Bernard Steel barrels & another set of Titanic Barrels with the same SN. The letter states that the 1899 Parker was sent back in 1902 for cleaning, adjusting and adding the Titanic barrels.
Best Regards, George
:shock: Oh boy, that sounds nice.
charlie cleveland
01-03-2014, 11:40 AM
george is that a 8 ga set of bernard barrels and the steel ones a 10 ga.. neat set up if it is...charlie
George Lander
01-03-2014, 08:54 PM
No Charlie & Mills, they are both 12 gauge. The letter states that "Parker shotgun serial number 92373 was ordered by W. Frank Irwin in Cherokee, Iowa on July 28, 1899. According to Parker Book No. 47 it was a CH hammerless 12 gauge. It featured Bernard steel barrels with a length of 32 inches & Lyman sights. It's stock configuration was a straight grip with Silver pad." The chokes were patterned RH (265 #7 pellets in a 30" circle at 40 yards) and LH (280 #7 pellets in a 30 circle at 40 yards). Trigger pull was set at RH 4 pounds and LH at 4 3/4-5 pounds. The order specified to "make guard same as grade 5 or 6 and he is to use gun and talk Parker for 3 years and it is his gun"
According to Order book No. 53 the gun was returned by W. Frank Irvin on April 16, 1901 to "take dents out of barrels, clean & rebrown, blue all iron parts, nickle triggers, make RH trigger pull 4 pounds and tighten action." Ther was no charge. According to Order book No. 63 the gun was returned by W. Frank Irvin c/o Sportsman St. Louis, MO on January 16, 1904 to fit "12 gauge 32 inch Titanic steel barrels to shoot 10 inches high, retarget & clean out old barrels and set trigger pull at RH 3 1/2 pounds and LH 4 pounds. Again there was no charge.
The gun is on a #2 frame and oddly enought the Titanic barrels have automatic ejectors.
If only these old guns could talk what stories they could tell
Best Regards, George
Mills Morrison
01-03-2014, 09:02 PM
Great story George! Yes, if these guns could talk. Notice how much use yours must have seen in the 2 or so years before they sent it back. I have a GH 12 that is on its 3rd stock, according to the records.
George Lander
01-03-2014, 09:08 PM
Great story George! Yes, if these guns could talk. Notice how much use yours must have seen in the 2 or so years before they sent it back. I have a GH 12 that is on its 3rd stock, according to the records.
Yes Mills, Although I haven't been able to track down W. Frank Irwin I feel that he must have been a professional shooter of some sort, perhaps live pigeons or trap. Any info on him or Sportsman, St. Louis would be appreciated.
Best Regards, George
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