Confused and bewildered

[wayne goerres]

Earlyer this year I bought this real nice little Parker P grade with twist steel barrels from brian. Come Augest I promptly to it squirle hunting useing RST lights in 16 ga with no6 shot. Couldnt kill a thing with it so I put it up and figured I would pattern it later. Yesterday I finnaly got it out and took it to the range and put it on paper. There isnt a bird living that could fly through this pattern at fourty measured yards without collecting five or six pellets. The gun patterner great so for Charlies benefit I fired two more rounds at the standard target of the PGCA (a Dr Pepper cans). Eight holes with the right barrel and twelve holes with the left barrel. So here is my question. The only difference between the squirle hunting and the patterning is, Iused RST lights in no 8s westerday and RST lights with no 6s for hunting. Is it possible my gun dosnt like no 6 shot. I wouldnt have thought it would make much difference.

[Daryl Corona]

Wayne, I think you answered your own question. Some barrels just "like" different loads. Personally I like and believe that 7 1/2's pattern the best out of every gun I've owned. Never liked 6's. With 7 1/2's you get pattern density and pellet energy enough to kill a bushytail or any bird that flies. IMHO.

[wayne goerres]

I am hot set up to load 16s so at the time I ordered these I had to take what they had (witch was'nt much). I origanally wanted 5s and 7 1/2s. I am surprised at the difference in patterns. I will have to try patterning the no 6s.

[Bruce Day]

There are all sorts of opinions but the only way you will really find out for yourself is to pattern the gun with different loads at different distances.

All of my Parker 16's pattern well with 6's and with full choke are effective between 40-60 yards provided I do my job. Usually when the target is missed the problem is at the rear of the gun.

For #5 shot in a 16, the pattern gets raggedy, so I favor 6's and 7 1/2's in a 16. #5 shot is better put through a larger bore gun when you need long distance penetration.

[Brian Dudley]

Yeah, shot size can make a difference. Pattern some 6 shot and see what you get.

I personally like small game hunting with 6 shot. Seems to have more stopping power.

[Daryl Corona]

Just remember..... Misses are measured in feet, a difference in choke only gives you inches.

[wayne goerres]

I must have shot at seven or eight squirles over a couple of days an never killed a single one so I switched guns. Huinted with about five differnt guns and I never missed another squirle. When I patterned the gun today it shot right to point of aim. When I was trying to hunt with it you would have thought I was fireing blanks. Confuseing.

[Russ Lindsay]

To Bruce's point. I find gun mount and sight picture are the biggest culprits in missed shots. Chokes and shot size are seldom the problem. If you can hit what you aim at when something is stationery, make sure you have the same sight picture when your mount is quicker and not deliberate. Cheek weld can come into play when mount a shoot are not so deliberate. I borrowed a Parker (thanks Doc) for some grouse hunting this fall and it was my first Parker. I had to keep telling myself as I mounted the gun, "keep your head down, keep your head down," BANG!

[Bruce Day]

I must have shot at seven or eight squirles over a couple of days an never killed a single one so I switched guns. Huinted with about five differnt guns and I never missed another squirle. When I patterned the gun today it shot right to point of aim. When I was trying to hunt with it you would have thought I was fireing blanks. Confuseing.


Its the gun support member. Get that calibrated correctly and you'll hit.

PS, Russ is an NRA instructor and has taught hundreds of boys and girls to shoot shotguns in the Boy Scout program.

[Jerry Parise]

Wayne,
Just out of curiosity have you checked to see if the gun truly fits you? Aiming a gun versus quickly mounting a gun and firing at moving game are two totally different situations. When aiming at a stationary target you can pretty much make any gun hit it's target. Mount, swing, fire and hit your target requires a gun that fit you. Just a thought.

[scott kittredge]

yes, wood to wood, that's my biggest problem when I miss, not keeping my head down:crying:

[wayne goerres]

I shoot most shot guns pretty well wether they fit or not. That was one of the reasons for patterning the gun today To see if it was shooting high or low because of my hold. It shoots to point of aim as I said before. The last squirle I shot at with this gun was glued to the side of a tree at about twenty feet (not measured). I shot both barrels at it and both were misses. I wont say that missing isn't a possibility but I dont miss often and squirles dont get me that excited. I will try patterning with the no 6s when the weather clears and see if this tells me something. Maby the squirles just got luckey.

[Harry Collins]

Wayne,

I'm told I shoot over targets with my Parkers. I think it's a wood to wood problem for me. 40 years ago when I was shooting about 500 clay targets a week in Italy I would see the target just above the bead. When shooting my little 20 gauge Bernadelli hammer gun there I had to come through the target. That's how I remember it. How about the rest of you fellows?

Harry

[scott kittredge]

I shoot most shot guns pretty well wether they fit or not. That was one of the reasons for patterning the gun today To see if it was shooting high or low because of my hold. It shoots to point of aim as I said before. The last squirle I shot at with this gun was glued to the side of a tree at about twenty feet (not measured). I shot both barrels at it and both were misses. I wont say that missing isn't a possibility but I dont miss often and squirles dont get me that excited. I will try patterning with the no 6s when the weather clears and see if this tells me something. Maby the squirles just got luckey.

at 20 ft a different shot size shouldn't make a gun shoot off, should be able to kill them with number 1 buck at 20 ft, I find that 6;s shoot the best patterns in all of my parkers and Ithaca's. keep us posted :corn:

[Rich Anderson]

I think your aiming your gun, a shotgun is meant to be pointed. My favorite Squrril gun is an accurate Kimber .22LR.

[Dennis V. Nix]

Wayne,

May I suggest shooting the gun at clay targets with both 6's and 7 1/2's to see how you do. I suspect you will do just as well with one over the other. At least you will have the mental knowledge that 6's do not work or they both work just fine. If neither one works well just let me know and I will send you an address in CO to send the gun. I hate to think you would go over Christmas worrying about a gun that does not do well for you. Allow me to put an end to that worrying.

Dennis

[wayne goerres]

I just couldn't burden you with such a responsibility. I will just have to use it for quail and grouse with no 8s or make a lamp out of it.

[Jack Cronkhite]

Tough to shoot a lamp gun, but not impossible. With a long enough cord, they could make a pretty good after-sunset gun.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f32/cbcs232/2nslwnc_zps8d87d02d.jpg

SOURCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJ-MpPBDug.jpg)

[John Dallas]

Never shoot loads hotter than 60 Watts from a lamp gun

[curtis taylor]

Hello, Im a new member and was curious how common it is for there not to be a research letter for a gun?

Rare or common?

thanks,

curtis

[Robin Lewis]

Curtis, go to the main page "www.parkerguns.org" and on the left side click on http://parkerguns.org/images/menu/research.jpg and then see in Serial Number Search click on here (http://parkerguns.org/ser_search.htm). That should answer your question.

[curtis taylor]

Robin, Thanks for the tag. Im having trouble getting info on a gun. Sent in the form for 2 guns and only got one back. Wondering if its common for them not to have info on a gun?

[curtis taylor]

tried the tag but had no luck......

[curtis taylor]

I must not be posting my questions..... Im using the forum incorrectly I guess.

[Mark Ouellette]

Hi Curtis,

Welcome aboard! If you have a new question please start a new thread. You will receive more attention by doing that.

Thanks!
Mark

[curtis taylor]

Did you get this response?

[wayne goerres]

Thought about trying the 8 ga next year but the gun and two squirles may be more than I can carry around.