New Member From CT

[Jeff Davis]

Hi- just picked up a Parker VHE 16ga 1 frame which I'm beginning to think I got an extremely good deal on. Seems to be in good original shape wiht typical handling marks form a gun thats been hunted with, wood looks original, very small repair was done on the splinter forend where a peice chipped off and there is a small chip off the stock. Quite a bit of what appears to be original case coloring is left, and the bluing is pretty good. Love the gun, and it will be my go to grouse gun next October. Serial number is 240101, and a guy on another forum I frequent posted me the stats from the serial number - capped pistol grip, 30" barrels, ejectors made post 1934.

I'm wondering- what will a factory letter tell me? I'm always interested in the history of these guns.

[Rick Losey]

welcome to the board

for a V grade - it should confirm the specs and will likely tell you where it was sent. That would likely be a reseller.

nice gun - my 16 1 frame 28" V has been the gun that sees the most use for several years

[Jeff Davis]

Would it tell me what the original chokes were? The choke restrictions on this measure 0.009 and 0.020, so roughly improved cylinder/ improved modified. I'm wondering if thats the way it was sent out.

[Dean Romig]

On a Parker that late, made in the days that Remington owned Parker shotgun production, there will be very scant information on it. Remington used IBM cards, not the stock books and order books that Parker Bros. kept during their 7 decades of Parker Bros. shotgun manufacture in Meriden, Ct.
There is probably no choke information available on your Parker.

Welcome to the PGCA Forum.

[Daryl Corona]

Jeff;
Dean is right about the choke information being unavailable on a gun in that era but .009/.020 sounds about right and is a great combination for an upland gun. Enjoy.

[Dave Suponski]

Jeff, I am here in CT and would be happy to look at your gun if you wish. I am in the southwestern part of the state.

[Jeff Davis]

Ok so maybe I didn't get the deal I thought- can't believe I missed this before- but the for end has a different serial number. Barrel and action are number 240101, while the forend is 230101. I bought this gun to shoot - not resell so I'm not so concerned - and I paid $900 for it, so either way I think it was worth it- bit what do you parker experts think this does to the value? Also doesn't it seem odd it's exactly one digit off?

[Carl Brandt]

Sounds like a good deal to me. The chance that someone could have found a replacement forend exactly 10,000 SNs apart are staggeringly small. This could be a very rare case of someone picking up the wrong punch.

My 16 ga of exactly the same configuration below:

P.S. How did a Connecticut Yankee get a name like Jeff Davis???

[Jeff Davis]

Nice! Looks familiar. I'd post a picture but I cannot get a clear one. I think I need some natural light. Every picture I take is either very dark or has too much glare. Yes, does seem odd that they are 10,000 off. It would be interesting to see the configuration of the gun that has serial number 230101. If it is a non splinter forend, or a non ejector forend that would lend some credence to an error. Also- are forends gauge-specific?

[Dean Romig]

Forends are not gauge specific but they are frame-size specific.

[edgarspencer]

230101 isn't in the serialization book, but 240101 is, and confirms your gun is as it left the factory. I'd go with the error theory.

[Jeff Davis]

Well either way I will enjoy it. Thanks everyone for your input.

[Rick Losey]

mistakes happen

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=330283&nt=4&page=1

[Larry Frey]

Ok so maybe I didn't get the deal I thought- can't believe I missed this before- but the for end has a different serial number. Barrel and action are number 240101, while the forend is 230101. I bought this gun to shoot - not resell so I'm not so concerned - and I paid $900 for it, so either way I think it was worth it- bit what do you parker experts think this does to the value? Also doesn't it seem odd it's exactly one digit off?

Jeff,
I would say you got a great deal and this spring when the clubs start shooting sporting clays again you, me, and Dave can all take our 30" 16 gages to Wallingford Rod & Gun Club for a round of clays.

[Jay Gardner]

Forends are not gauge specific but they are frame-size specific.

Interchangable to a point but the engraving and checkering are grade specific.

[Erick Dorr]

Welcome Jeff.
Are there no choke markings on the barrel flats for this gun? Late Remington Parkers have chokes marked. Not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, I can't say conclusively that Remington always stamped the chokes on late barrels.
Sincerely,
Erick

[Jeff Davis]

I don't see anything that looks like a choke marking- what would it look like?

[Erick Dorr]

Jeff,
Others can better reply, but look at bbl end of flats for abbreviations such as mod, imp, or skeet in, skeet out.
PS Up here we would say that is a wicked good deal.

[Carl Brandt]

Barrel Flats of a late production Remington Parker:

[Jeff Davis]

[QUOTE=Carl Brandt;123525]Barrel Flats of a late production Remington Parker:[/

yeah- not seeing anything like that- what I see on my barrel flat is what looks like a maltese cross (you can see it on the picture, left barrel), an x and an E also on the left barrel, you can just make it out in the picture- this site tells me it means this gun was manufactured - December 1936, and a barrel weight , 3 superscript 8 which I assume denotes 3 pounds 8 oz (you can't make that out in the picture but its there in the right hand barrel).

So- the only thing I can't figure out from the resources on this site is what the cross is.

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae116/jsd245/DSC_0017_zps69a2438c.jpg

[charlie cleveland]

first time i ve seen the maltese cross on a parker..very interesting i hope you find what it means...charlie