Repro small gauge chokes....

[Kenny Graft]

Has anyone done any extensive pattern testing with the .28 gauge Parker repro M/F barrel set? I have shot clays with IC/Mod and at the same time swoped the barrels to M/F set at each station. At the end the scores were about the same with only a couple extra birds broke with the 26" open barrels. Both the scores were just under my normal shooting with my repro .20 gauge. I think if I would use the correct set of barrels needed for each stations presintation or distance being shot my scores would be even better than with my 20 gauge. I sent the barrels from one of my 20 gauge M/F sets out and had both chokes opened......010 and .024 from .018 and 038 I can't say it made a noticable difference in my sporting clays scores. Are club has several long shots that the tight choke is better at breaking. I have a inside barrel reader by stan baker....the 28ga. bore and chokes read 26" Ic=.004 mod=.013 , 28" set mod= .014 full= .033 My question is about the .033 choke, does it throw a good pattern with 7.5# 3/4oz loads?, and for hunting with 5 or 6 shot? Anyone have any test proven info? I plan to test them myself but not in the winter here in ohio...TDC!!! thanks Kenny Graft SXS ohio....(-:

[Steve Kleist]

Kenny, I also have a two barrel set of repro 28's. One is M/F, the other IC/M both opened nearly to skeet with just enough choke ot control the pattern. My open choke shooting is mainly skeet. I make an effort to kill all targets as close to me as possible - just because that is where the gun is most effective. I have patterned both barrel sets, and the tighter chokes pattern more uniformly. The open chokes are obviously larger, but not as uniform, but at 15 yards it really dosen't matter. The tighter chokes, in my mind, are better on the crossing shots because of a slightly longer shot string. The 28 is a great gun. My scores usually run a bird ot two/100 less than the matching 12 ga. It is fun to shoot, an if you reload, less expensive than the 12.
Butt cold here in Northern MN but the forcast for August is warmer.
Regards, Steve Kleist, Ely, MN

[Bill Murphy]

The .033 choke in the Repro 28 gauge full choke barrel is some kind of world record for constriction in a 28 gauge barrel. The standard full choke for Parker Brothers is .020 in my experience, and they shoot very tight patterns. I may try a few patterns with the full choke Repro 28 gauge when the weather breaks. I will compare it with the full choke Parker Brothers barrels.

[Austin W Hogan]

Billl; a good friend had an English 28 with .050 of choke. He shot it fairly well at skeet but thought it should be opened because of the dimension. He reamed it out, and it still shot about IC. I just spent a few days remeasuring Parker chokes as a result of my visit to Julia's to examine theSuper Fox. The more I learn about chokes, the less I know.

Best, Austin

[Kenny Graft]

I don't mind tight chokes and shoot them quite well....center the target and it goes POOF...My question is ...does the tight choking do harm to the pattern quality in general...overchoke? Industry standard full in 28gauge is .020 of choke, My gun reads .033 as does most of the parker repro's in 28gauge full. I own 3 of them. I know there is a lot that effect patern quality besides the choke, Im looking for imput that others have learned about tight choked 28 gauges. thanks all Kenny Graft SXS Ohio...(-:

[E Robert Fabian]

I would pattern gun on a sheet of cardboard with a 30" circle, count the pellets in the circle and compare to quantity in load, there are charts for shot size and weight. I've been doing this for a couple of years now and it answers allot of questions real fast. Gun shoots high, too the left, this load has a hole in pattern. One load may shoot poorly next may pattern well.

[Chuck Heald]

Briley says .027 is XF. I guess it's not too hard to imagine that fiber wads in a .032 choke would be close to same. I'm going to pattern my 28" .032/.012 choked 28g with #8 targen loads and #6 and #5 heavy loads.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/roaniecowpony/chokeconstrictions.jpg

[Marvin Kells]

Does anyone have the actual Repro measurements for Q1 & Q2? I'd like to know the "Briley" equivalent (i.e. is it LTSK & SK, or SK & IMK).

[Greg Baehman]

I have a 28-ga. Q1/Q2 that measures .004/.008 of constriction, my 20-ga. Q1/Q2 mikes .004/.007

[Dave Suponski]

My 28 ga. 26" Q1/Q2 measures exactly the same as Greg's

[Mike Shepherd]

In reference to this Parker Reproduction 28:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1364

I got it in today and measured the chokes and bores:

Bore Right 0.554
Bore Left 0.555
Choke Right 0.020
Choke Left 0.040

That left choke is .040" !

I patterned it today on paper at 25 yards. 15 shots on 15 pieces of paper. The gun shoots to the same point. The left barrel pattern fits inside a 18" circle. The right inside an 21" circle. I shot AA #9s, AA#8s, AA Supersport #7-1/2, Remington #8s, and Fiocchi HV #8s.

The forcing cones are 1/2" long.

Minimum wall thickness is 0.025". It is a very light gun (5lbs 6oz) with 28" barrels but this still surprised me. I don't see any evidence in the bores that they have been honed.

Has anyone else measured bore diameters on their 28ga? The serial number is 28-29XX



Best,

Mike

[Chuck Heald]

Mike,
That bore size doesn't seem significantly over the .550 nominal bore size for 28g. Those walls seem very thin for a factory gun. I'm guessing not honed. You have the world record for choke in a 28g now.

My 28" 28g arrived at the dealer today. I won't get it out of jail for 10 days from the day I sign for it, probably tomorrow. Kalifornia has their laws made by the paranoid fools.

I'll see about bore diameter when I get it. What are you thinking about doing with chokes?

[Mike Shepherd]

Chuck I think I will just shoot the gun as it is for awhile. If I can hit something with it now and then that will be enough. Every Bob I miss will be there for me and the dogs the next time I go back. If you are asking if I want them tighter I don't.



Thanks for the reply.

Best,

Mike

[Chuck Heald]

... If you are asking if I want them tighter I don't.

Thanks for the reply.

Best,

Mike

:rotf:

Mike, what will your student think if you miss? Could be bad for biz.

Dave at Jaqua's measured the chokes on the gun I bought while I spoke with him on the phone. He said they were .032 and .012. That should work for me. But I still don't know what I'm going to do with this big-bore. :) Most of my shooting is at the few missed by my noseless, blind mutt, as she blazed thru at mach 2, 10 minutes before I could crawl over a hill in my decrepid state. But in her defense, she is getting better and I'm finding she's leaving fewer for me to find on my own.:banghead: I hear we're called Old Yeller and missus or was it misses. I'm not sure which one I am. I'd shoot the birds out in front of my dog, but most are out of range for my 24x scoped .264.

[Dean Romig]

I won't get it out of jail for 10 days from the day I sign for it, probably tomorrow. Kalifornia has their laws made by the paranoid fools.

It's the "cooling off period" so 'we' can have enough time to reflect and reconsider the reason 'we' need to obtain these evil weapons.

[Chuck Heald]

I thought it was a law instituted by wives to allow them to catch us spending jewelery money so they could call the state controller (probably a controlling women) to kabosh our purchase.

[Kenny Graft]

I have a 20/16 repro set both barrels are 28" long choked Q1/Q2 the 20ga. is .003/.006 , the 16ga. is .004/.006. I have not paterned them as yet...Its a very rare 28" combo set, PG-DT-SF. I found it at Ivory Beads a few years back. They had a big asking price, 11500.00, they had the gun listed for 6 months or so........I made a offer of 8K ....no go, weighted 6 more months and made the offer again, that did it....SOLD..... (-: I think Parker Reproductions gun smiths left the 28ga. and 20 ga. full barrels choked too tight...the full 20-s range in at .037 or .038 the 28-s come in at about the same? The 12ga guns and 16-s are not that tight ...they come in at .024 for my full 16 and .035 on the full 12ga. Thats correct for the 12 and just under choke for the 16?, the 16ga is listed at .026 for full on my charts. The above report for the 28ga. with .040 of choke sounds good, 18" patern at 25 yards is great! I would like to also know the percentage of shot in that patern? Should be 85-90% I would think? I shoot my 28ga repro fairly well with the tight ckokes...I did own a Merkel that was choked IC/MOD that shot like a rifle!...the target had to be covered up dead on or you missed! I think it was shooting a tad low? Anyway its history now and Im very happy with the guns from Jack Skues...thanks all Kenny Graft SXS in snowy Ohio....(-:

[Dean Romig]

Chuck, your wife is registered over at Morgan's on Hawthorne. They have a website and you can track her purchases . . . :rolleyes:

[Mike Shepherd]

Chuck upland ten gauges were invented for guys with dogs like yours! Cabelas Hammond has a Purdey ten gauge that weighs seven pounds. Those .410s and Repro 28s were made for guys like me that can shoot and own pointing dogs.:)

Kenny that sounds like a great gun and good horse trading on your part.

Dean I have made some doublegun purchases that I wish I had had a ten day cooling off period.

Best,

Mike

[Chuck Heald]

:biglaugh:Dean,
How'd you know she had a credit line at Morgan's?

You musta lived here to be familiar with Morgans?

[Dean Romig]

Chuck, I sent you a PM.