Fox 20 gauge

[CraigThompson]

Have a line on a Fox 20 gauge don't know whether it's a Sterlingworth , A or maybe even one of the Savage/Fox B's !

But I think I'll go take a look at it just the same .

Also have a Remington 1889 12 gauge . I'm not overly big on hammerguns but since I'll be there may as well look that one over as well .

[Tom Wyraz]

Let me know what you find out about the Fox.


Tom

[ed good]

don't pay fox sterlingworth price for glorified stevens 311 gon...

[CraigThompson]

Well the thing turned out to be a first year of production Sterlingworth .

Which I gotta say surprised me a good bit . The rest of the stuff with it was not of the same caliber IMHO .

I'll go back tommorrow evening and see if I can make it mine :whistle:

[CraigThompson]

don't pay fox sterlingworth price for glorified stevens 311 gon...

I am no advocate of Stevens 311's or the Savage Fox B's of the same time period .

This thing has 26" barrels that unless I'm mistaken were choked IC/M !

[CraigThompson]

Oh yeah the 1889 Remington looked very nice . But it wasn't calling me LOL's !

The little Fox looked decent and of all things they had an old top lever H&R 16 gauge single shot I think I might try and acquire as well .

[Eldon Goddard]

I do not think there is anything wrong with Stevens 311/ Fox Model Bs. They are heavy though I examined a 16 ga 28'' barrel was 7lbs 8 oz.

[charlie cleveland]

boy thats heavy for a 16 ga even in a stevens ..i guess i ll get dusted but i likev like the old 311 s..got a 410 two 16 s and a 12 in them and that 12 ga has been chambered two a 3 1/2 inch gun..there tough old guns not fancy but reliable.. charlie

[CraigThompson]

I do not think there is anything wrong with Stevens 311/ Fox Model Bs. They are heavy though I examined a 16 ga 28'' barrel was 7lbs 8 oz.

I'll not be spending any money on a 311 or Savage Fox B .

In a perfect world I'd not own a side by side that was made after 1929 but then the World's certainly not perfect :banghead:

[Eldon Goddard]

Mr. Thompson
I was going to ask you in another thread what you thought of Ballard rifles as a BPCR. When I was young I went on a trip with my parents to Wyoming and ended up in a shop with a whole bunch of them do not remember much more I was only 13 I think.

[CraigThompson]

Mr. Thompson
I was going to ask you in another thread what you thought of Ballard rifles as a BPCR. When I was young I went on a trip with my parents to Wyoming and ended up in a shop with a whole bunch of them do not remember much more I was only 13 I think.
I've sold a couple nice old Ballards over the last couple years and had my hands on several of the ones that were made by Steve Garbes company in recent years . I always liked the Ballards in the full regalia Schiyen schuetzen style and the same can certainly be said for the Stevens 44 1/2 guns in the Pope schuetzen style ! There's a company in Dingnans Ferry PA that's makes a quality reproduction of the Stevens 44 1/2 and the folks in Cody Wyoming last time I saw one made a very nice rendition of the Ballard . There's also a fellow in New York State named Romano that makes a very nice rendition of a Maynard single shot .

[Eldon Goddard]

Yep must have been Cody. I dragged my parents and grandparents there to go the museum. They drug me out three hours later. We went on a trip to Montana and to visit where my grandpa was born in Thermopolis, Wy. Good luck on the sterlingworth sounds like a sweet gun. We will all want to see pictures if you get it of coarse.

[Dave Noreen]

Just as a point of reference, the Fox Model B was introduced in 1940,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/A%20H%20Fox%20Gun%20Co/1940ModelB_zps58637c70.jpg
(1940 Fox catalogue)

and there was no such thing as a Stevens Model 311 until 1948.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/J%20Stevens/StevensModel3111948.jpg
(1948 Savage/Stevens/Fox catalogue)

From 1931 until WW-II there was a Springfield No. 311, but it was built on the old G.S. Lewis Patent stricker action.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/J%20Stevens/SpringfieldNo311ST1933.jpg
(1933 J. Stevens Arms Co. catalogue)

The Springfield No. 311 was a cheaper version of the Riverside Arms Co./Springfield Arms Co. No. 315 and the slightly nicer J. Stevens Arms Co. No. 330.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/J%20Stevens/RiversideNo315fromCatalogueNo561925-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/J%20Stevens/No330fromJan21930IllustratedPriceList.jpg

[Daryl Corona]

Dave;
You never cease to amaze me. Interesting info, thanks.

[CraigThompson]

In the reference material I have on Sterlingworths one claims the first 20 gauge was seriel number 250,000 and the other says 250,100 . So the one I got tonight was either the 24th or 124th made as my seriel number is 250,124 !

Little gun is actually in pretty decent shape and the bores have no spots dings dents etc !

I also got the little H&R 16 gauge . Not a big deal but it's one of those that was made from 1908-1940 . The "Bay State" model !

I'll try the Sterlingworth on the skeet field wednesday !

[CraigThompson]

Well now I have two 12 gauge Sterlingworths one from Philly and one from Utica as well as two Philly 20 gauge guns !

Only 16 Fox I have is a circa 1930 Utica Fox A . Now I need to run across a decent Philly 16 Sterlingworth preferrably 26" IC/M :rolleyes:

[CraigThompson]

Dave;
You never cease to amaze me. Interesting info, thanks.

FWIW they had a Stevens 315 12 gauge at the auction I got the Sterlingworth and the H&R . Gun looked okay and went for $225 !

[CraigThompson]

The Springfield No. 311 was a cheaper version of the Riverside Arms Co./Springfield Arms Co. No. 315 and the slightly nicer J. Stevens Arms Co. No. 330.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/J%20Stevens/RiversideNo315fromCatalogueNo561925-1.jpg



Yes this was the one they had in a 12 gauge !