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ed good
10-20-2013, 12:45 PM
this classic 16 gauge hunting gun was made in Germany in 1924. it is an extractor gun, that has double triggers and no choke tubes. and even with 29 1/2" barrels, it weighs just 6 1/2 pounds...
wayne goerres
10-20-2013, 01:23 PM
I like the way the europeans used sling swivels on most of there guns.
charlie cleveland
10-20-2013, 02:36 PM
nice gun ed... charlie
CraigThompson
10-20-2013, 02:43 PM
I have one very similar to that one made by Franz Kettner .

Mine is choked full and fuller !
ed good
10-30-2013, 05:37 PM
most of these prewar german guns are a joy!
CraigThompson
10-30-2013, 07:23 PM
I have a Wm Collath single shot rifle 6.5x52R with a pre war scope thats kinda intresting as well !

Incidently when I bought that thing I was a little worried about ammo and come to find out thats the euro designation for the 25-35 WIN !

I have some old 60's factory loads for the 25-35 and when I fired them in this rifle at 100 yards I was easily getting 1 1/2" groups which I thought was very nice for this OLD rifle scope combo with almost as old ammo .

That one may get a nod next year during the Damage Control Permit season .
KCordell
10-30-2013, 11:00 PM
Love the Collaths!
CraigThompson
10-31-2013, 10:07 AM
Love the Collaths!

I have a Kettner drilling thats chambered for a cartridge Collath desgined !

The shotgun barrels are 16 and 16 but the rifle barrel is 10.75x65R Collath . I use a 207 grain cast gas check bullet sized to .429" and pushed with about 16 grains of SR4756 .
To make brass for the cartridge I took Hornady 405 WIN brass cut it down to length ran the case partially in a 444 sizing die . I also had to turn the rim diameter and thickness on our lathe . But after all that I was finally able to get it to shoot decently at 50 yards with the irons .
KCordell
10-31-2013, 12:32 PM
Here is a Collath in 16x16x8x57 great...no fantastic craftsmanship, shooter and fun in the field.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/code337/Collath1-1.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/code337/Collath2-1.jpg
Eldon Goddard
10-31-2013, 02:36 PM
Is that your howdah pistol? That is awesome.
Eldon Goddard
10-31-2013, 03:49 PM
Yeah when I clicked the link it was in a group of pictures. Have you ever shot it? It would be a fun reloading project to make cases for it. I always thought they were cool. It probably does not help that I love jones underlevers.
KCordell
10-31-2013, 03:58 PM
Yeah when I clicked the link it was in a group of pictures. Have you ever shot it? It would be a fun reloading project to make cases for it. I always thought they were cool. It probably does not help that I love jones underlevers.

Yes, I have shot it with BP loads but its been a long time since its been out. It produced respectable groups at 25 yds. Funny as I was thinking about taking it out last summer but never got to it. Again, thanks for the reminder and I too like the jones underlever....
charlie cleveland
10-31-2013, 07:40 PM
what a hog leg..would have loved to see you shooting it...charlie
wayne goerres
10-31-2013, 08:33 PM
Shouldnt there be a tiger skin to go along with that howda pistol.
CraigThompson
10-31-2013, 09:22 PM
Shouldnt there be a tiger skin to go along with that howda pistol.


Noooooo , endangered now !

But some big old boar tusks would be okay :whistle:
KCordell
11-01-2013, 09:00 AM
Well, like many of our guns, it probably could tell some good stories if it could talk. Doesn't have it's makers box and looks like it was carried quite a bit. Yesterday. wrote off to Atkin, Grant and Lang to see if they still have dated records. I immediately received a response that they do. Will check into see what records they have for this piece.