0 Frame 16

[todd allen]

I've had this gun sitting in the safe for a few years. When it came to me, it had been cold-blued, and the wood was spray painted with some sort of finish, that never really dried. I gave the man 200 bucks for it, and brought it home. I completely dismantled it, and stripped all of the finish off.
Here's what I got. Wondering what the next step should be. I'm thinking refinish the bbls, and let it go at that. The gun is actually in pretty good shape, good bores, all matching numbers, etc. 0 frame, 28" bbls, DHBP. It retains it's original chokes, and crushes doves like a ball-peen hammer.
It is, at this point, just a shooter, so I'm not worried about value, but I don't want to put a lot of money in it. I would love to have the bbls refinished, if that's not too pricey. Oh, and serial number is 72105
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[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Todd: I'm sure others will chime in but I would love to own that gun. Very nice. Thomas

[greg conomos]

If you want to double your money let me know...!

[Rick Losey]

If you want to double your money let me know...!

if we are going to start bidding - i'll go triple :rotf: :rotf:

if it were mine - I would have the barrels redone

Enjoy your good fortune - and don't waste any money on lottery tickets - you have used up your luck for a while.

[David Hamilton]

You have a potentially very valuable gun!! David

[Kenny Graft]

Send it to Brad Bachelder and don't look back....I just got back my grade 2 12ga that he did a full refinish....it looks so close to new again....I just like looking at it. Brad did a wonderfull job on that 1884 shotgun...(-: Now Im a real Parker collector/shooter guy! That old gun brought down a crow with a 7 1/2 target load at 45-50yards the very first shot I ever fired with it! The crow got past me and was fleeting fast...I hit the rear trigger down it came......I like that old gun!

[ed good]

gun looks fine as is...you did a nice job on the wood...no need to do any thing else cosmetic to it... have it checked by a smith and then if found safe, get some low pressure loads from rst or polywad and take it to the skeet range...have noticed, 7 1/2's seem to work best in these old guns, at least for me.

and, 16 gauge parker hammer guns rarely come to market...should you decide to sell it, contact me via private message for appraisal...meantime, enjoy this fine old gun!

[todd allen]

Thanks Ed, and Kenny. I sent a PM off this morning re: refinishing the bbls. I think a proper finish on the bbls. will really set off the beauty of this gun, and cannot possibly hurt the value.
I have already put a couple of boxes of RSTs thru it, and am still alive.
BTW, years ago, back in the early days of the PGCA, I wrote an article on this gun, and how I ended up with it. I will see if I can dig that up.
It all started at a pigeon shoot, . . .

[edgarspencer]

I just got back my grade 2 12ga that he did a full refinish....it looks so close to new again.
Kenny, Post up some pictures please

[Dean Romig]

If you want to double your money let me know...!



What a generous offer.... :shock:

[todd allen]

Okay, here's the plan. I talked to Brad today, and I'm going to have the bbls. done. I'm not going to do the receiver, because I actually like the color it is now. I am going to have the stock bent upward, a little, and have the hook re-welded with the SS process that Brad uses.
I can't send it off right yet, because the money is going to come out of a project my wife and I are working on, and spending money is still a little tight, but I want to have this little gun ready for dove season.

[Rick Losey]

Just remember to post the after picture please

[todd allen]

I'll get some good pics, both before and after. I know it's just a lowly P-Grade, but I am addicted to Damascus/Twist bbls, and this little gun is a jewel. With the combination of frame size, weight, and bbl lengths, it handles like a custom two piece cue stick.

[Carl Baird]

I'll go triple too + I'll pay shipping AND insurance. Just let me know!!!
Looks a lot like my 12. It needs a buddy!

[Mills Morrison]

I would have the barrels redone. That should not cost too much

[Carl Baird]

I agree on the barrels. I know Brad does excellent work, but so does Bill Schwarz. Bill may be a little more affordable and I know he's faster. I would highly recommend him as an affordable alternative.

[Brian Dudley]

For anyone who may have missed it, This is a 3 year old thread.

[edgarspencer]

Threads on 0 framed, lightened recivers, in any grade, are timeless.
The gun I used to refer to as 'The Gun From Hell' because of the seemingly endless time and expense that went into it, above paying too much from the gitgo, is a grade two and has become my favorite hammer gun. Chris Dawe did an exemplary job on a new stock, and Brad B did the barrels and case hardening. I loose myself in thought when looking at it. 30 minutes of admiring it is a very healthy alternative to 30 minutes of television.

[Dean Romig]

Is that the best picture you could come up with Edgar? You could grace us with a few more... :rolleyes:






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[Jim DiSpagno]

Oh Edgar, you didn't pay too much for it from the gitgo. Don't fib. LOL

[Mills Morrison]

Somebody brought in a 0 frame 16 at the Southern. You could tell it had been used a lot and cared for well. A perfect bird gun.

[William Davis]

That may have been me, unless there were two for sale. One I bought had the twist barrels done.

I like it.

William.

[Mills Morrison]

The one I saw was a VH

[edgarspencer]

Oh Edgar, you didn't pay too much for it from the gitgo. Don't fib. LOL

Not if I got it for the original quote, and not if it had a trace of finish. Until Brad finished, the best part about it was the new stock. I just want a 30" gun. This one will have to go in the box with me.

[William Davis]

Mills, not me one I bought was a 0 frame 16 Hammer gun

William

[edgarspencer]

What was the serial number of your new gun William? I have 55094, and sold 55096, because I couldn't find 55095.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Sixteen Gauge hammer guns are jewels, I hope Mike Smith will see this and post photos he took of Gunners gun and Matties gun two wonderful guns put together by two guys that loved two four legged friends that have passed, I am sure Rich feels the same way I do these guns will never be sold just passed down to family that appreciates them, Gary

[William Davis]

Gary

51327, O Grade. it's been extensively restored. Barrels are nice, Frame too. Has the lightening cuts, Fish Tail, Hammers are replacements. Stock has right many repaired spots, re-finished checkering re-cut, well done though.

It's a good shooter, not the best collector gun

William

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Sounds like a great gun to use, congrats, Gary

[todd allen]

For anyone who may have missed it, This is a 3 year old thread.

What's 3 years to a gun that is 133 years old?
Still in my safe, still on my project list.

[King Brown]

Still magical, too, for the way it comes up and kills ducks almost by itself.