Inheritance 1881 Grade 6 10ga.

[davidmccomb]

What is the value of this gun. My grandfather received it from George M. Dugan who was the operations superintendent for the Santa Fe RR.

[Ray Masciarella]

David

You need to post photos before anyone can help you here.

Ray

[Bill Murphy]

You must give us serial numbers, markings, and pictures for us to properly tell you what you have. It sounds like all this will be worthwhile.

[Brian Dudley]

Talk about a dangling carrot. Mentioning a high grade hammer gun ad not potting pictures. We look forward to seeing it.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

David, The guys are right send photos so we can tell you something about your gun, Gary

[davidmccomb]

What is the value of this gun. My grandfather received it from George M. Dugan who was the operations superintendent for the Santa Fe RR.

I hope the attachments with pictures worked.

[davidmccomb]

I have posted some pictures

[Rick Losey]

nice gun, very nice gun.

[charlie cleveland]

i noticed this was a 4 frame gun...you have a really nice 10 ga there... charlie

[Mills Morrison]

Looks like a great gun that you should be proud to own. Looks to be in good shape as well

[Ray Masciarella]

Your question related to value. Based on the photos, and it would take more than just looking at photos, you have a valuable gun

[Bill Murphy]

Seems to be a Grade 5 rather than a 6, but a 4 frame Grade 5 is a scarce bird. A PGCA letter of provenance may shed some light on the identity of the original purchaser. The "5" stamped on the water table with the serial number is the grade. The "6" stamped on the barrel flat is the weight in pounds of the unfinished barrels. If the unfinished barrel weight had not been in even pounds, the ounces would have been stamped in smaller letters next to the "6". A great gun, with great provenance, and maybe more to come.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

David, Indeed you have a nice gun, What is the barrel length and the LOP, I like the Fox? on the floor plate, Gary

[Bill Murphy]

#26276, if that is the correct serial number, is a Grade 5 30" ten gauge Damascus barrel top lever gun. The Parker Story lists the extrapolated total of 30" Grade 5 ten gauge Damascus top lever guns at 12 made out of a total of 45 of four different barrel lengths. Total for the earlier style lifter action guns is 44 in all barrel lengths.

[davidmccomb]

So, that makes this gun worth $$$? It has 30" barrels with ejectors. I am sending for a letter for more info. I have a pic of the RR exec that gave it to my grandfather. I want an 8 ga.

[davidmccomb]

David, Indeed you have a nice gun, What is the barrel length and the LOP, I like the Fox? on the floor plate, Garyit has 30" barrels lop 14.5" thanks

[davidmccomb]

Thanks I am wanting an 8 ga. I am sending for a letter on this gun. If it proves out that Mr Dugan was the one who ordered this gun, I have his picture

[davidmccomb]

Thanks

[Bill Murphy]

Be sure to share the information with us. When I was a pup, the president of the Santa Fe, Mr. Fred Gurley, invited my Dad and me to a private excursion on the then new "El Capitan" two level observation cars from Washington, DC to Point of Rocks, Maryland and return. It was an evening excursion with meals and special treatment and was really exciting for a youngster like myself. I spent a lot of time as a kid around trains, but this was a bit special. There was a hard cover menu provided for dinner, and I asked Mr. Gurley to sign my menu. I still have it.

[greg conomos]

Well....it's a cool gun and it's great your have some provenance on it. But I'm not as thrilled as some of the others are over it for the simple fact that the condition is not bad but not stellar either. I'd be proud to own it, but I also have to be up front and tell you you won't get much of an 8 ga for it if you are looking for an even trade.

[Ray Masciarella]

Not likely to get any 8 ga in even trade but it is a nice nice gun. Hard to tell exactly but it does not appear to have a lot of original condition, ie CCH, bluing, etc

[davidmccomb]

Yes I understand the condition issues but needing a conversation price as I'm not selling it. Still like to find 8 ga. I'll let you know if the RR connection pans out

[Ray Masciarella]

I sent you a PM

[Brian Dudley]

On a gun like this. Condition would be just icing on the cake. As it sits, if it is in 100% working order and shootable, it is very valuable given the grade and rarity.

[charlie cleveland]

brian said it all...charlie

[davidmccomb]

I indeed got a letter and it confirmed that it was purchased by George dugan who my grandfather received from him as a gift for letting him pheasant hunt on his farm in Stafford Ks.

[Mills Morrison]

I indeed got a letter and it confirmed that it was purchased by George dugan who my grandfather received from him as a gift for letting him pheasant hunt on his farm in Stafford Ks.

That is cool! Not everyone has a gun with that much heritage:cool:

[Rick Losey]

I indeed got a letter and it confirmed that it was purchased by George dugan who my grandfather received from him as a gift for letting him pheasant hunt on his farm in Stafford Ks.

must have been a good hunt

[Drew Hause]

In that day, Prairie Chicken filled the sky in south central Kansas

"Prairie Chicken Shooting In Kansas" Theodore R. Davis in Harper's Weekly Dec. 21, 1867

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[Dean Romig]

Look at the looong barrels on those guns!

[Mills Morrison]

Thanks Dr. Drew. I always enjoy your posts!

Yes, Dean. Boy, I bet those would make good turkey guns

[charlie cleveland]

boy that one set of barrels is way long...wish i couyld have seen this seen for real..i just cannot imagine... charlie

[Mills Morrison]

There is a photo in the back of Vol 2 of The Parker Story of a DH 10 gauge with 40 inch barrels.

[davidmccomb]

Thanks for pictures

[Gerald McPherson]

Now that's bird hunting. Reminds me of dove hunting years ago. 40-50 to the flock one after another. WOW!!!!

[John Davis]

I hunt a lot off horse back but that's shooting off horse back!

[Gary Laudermilch]

That is the reason for the long barrels - to get the muzzle out past the horses head. Kind of like the old camel guns of north Africa.

[Mike Franzen]

I hunt a lot off horse back but that's shooting off horse back!

I thought about you when I saw that picture. When you told me we were going to be hunting quail on horseback I thought you meant we would be shooting them from horseback. My family thought I was nuts to be hunting like that.
:rotf:

[Ed Blake]

So did the OP ever get his 8 gauge and live happily ever after? Personally, I would have hung on to the 10.

[Bill Murphy]

Dave, we would like to see a picture of the PGCA letter and we would also like to know what the fate of the 10 is and how your 8 gauge search is coming along.

[Jay Gardner]

Wow. Just, wow. That's a beautiful gun and the case colors...wow.

[Tom Hawkins]

I bought the gun from Dave a long time ago. It needed and got a new spring on left side plate. It had a bit of slack and was put back on face. The gold shield near the top lever was gone and has been replaced except one brad is not finished quite yet, I will test it on a spring gobbler very soon. The chokes are reversed F/M. It came with ten brass shells loaded with 00 buck. It is balanced and swings well and has been a neat project.