Loads for paper hulls

[wayne goerres]

Bought a bunch of paper hulls and want to reload some of them. There are three typs of hulls. Petters victor,winchester,and federal. Looking for light loads. Would like to find some useing 7625 and w209 primers,powder and primers are hard to get around here. I will be trimming the hulls to 2 1/2" this way they will fit all of my guns. Dosnt make any difference if they are roll crimp or folded crimp. I have tools for both. I would'nt mind useing a fiber wad colom if at all possible. I did a thread serch and read until my eyes hurt but was'nt coming up with any specifics. Thanks for any help

[Richard Flanders]

Do some web searching for the older shotshell reloading manuals. Used book sites maybe. Abebooks maybe or Amazon.

[charlie cleveland]

not to steal you thread but theres a bunch of paper hull 10 ga on gunbroker at the moment and fairly cheap.punch in shotgun shell... charlie

[John Farrell]

Are you looking for 10 gauge, 12, 16, 20, 28 or 410? I have some old reloading books and may be able to provide information to you.

[wayne goerres]

Jhon I am looking gor 12ga loads. Sorry I cant beleave I left out that critical bit of information.

[Paul Harm]

I believe any low pressure load for plastic in the same shell would work. When I load Federal papers I just use the same data that's for Federal plastic. Never had a problem.

[Steve Havener]

Here is a load from Lyman's Shotshell Handbook first edition.


"Use with Federal Plastic and Paper Cases Only"
1 1/8th oz shot, 25.5 grains SR 7625, Federal 209 primer, one Federal .135 (nitro card) two Federal 3/8" fiber cushiond, 6,700 LUP, 1160 F.P.S..

Should fit nicely in a 2 5/8th inch hull with a roll crimp but if the wad column is too tall you can easily split the fiber cushion to get the proper wad column height. If you cant find Federal 209 primers I think you will be able to get by with a Federal 209A primers by reducing the powder charge by 2 or 3 grains.

[Paul Harm]

Or just use Win or Cheddites - you'd just lower pressure a tad .

[wayne goerres]

I have come across a load useing win. aa lite and win 209 primers with 3/4 oz shot and win plastic wads. Was thinking about switching win,wads for fed. wads and loading in papper fed hulls. any thoughts on this. Develops 5500 psi in plastic.

[charlie cleveland]

sounds like you have come up with a great lite load... charlie

[John Farrell]

The Federal wad is intended for straight walled hulls, such as the Federal Gold Medal and Federal paper hulls. If you use them in the AA hull they will not seat correctly, nor will they in a Remington STS or Nitro 27, all three of which are inside tapered hulls. Switching components around because you have only certain hulls, wads, primers etc. is not a good idea.

[wayne goerres]

Yes Jhon. That is what I intended was to use the win load in a paper federal hull by substituing the aa wad for a federal load.

[Paul Harm]

Not sure what you meant - think you were saying " to substitute a Federal wad for the AA wad " and use the load data from Win load. In load data from Federal they use another grain or so of powder for the paper hull. As John said, use the tapered wad in Win and Rem hulls, the straight wad in Fed hulls. Using a tapered wad in a Fed hull will work, but powder can leak by giving you weak or blooper loads. Good luck.