SC Grade 34" 20 Gauge

[Bill Murphy]

Well, the famous 34" 20 gauge single barrel sold this afternoon for about ten grand, a reasonable price in my opinion. I would have paid that much if I were allowed any more guns in the house. Let me know if you bought the gun because I have some old information on the gun and its previous owners.

[FRANK HALSEY]

Well Bill, I got it. Frank Halsey. I collect sbts and I could not pass on this one. I would love to have any info on this gun and it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for this help and info. Frank

[Dean Romig]

Congratulations Frank. That is truly a unique Parker. Please show pictures when you have it in hand.

[Bill Murphy]

Good work, Frank. At least I know where it is. I got a call from another 20 gauge single trap owner yesterday. I think he was checking to see whether I was still alive (and possibly bidding on the 34" gun) but he never asked. Maybe I'll take mine out for a couple of rounds this afternoon.

[Bill Murphy]

Frank, I haven't forgotten you. I will copy the information you asked about and send it as soon as possible.

[FRANK HALSEY]

Thank you again for this very nice offer to help me with this gun. I have sent away for a letter and hope to have it soon along with the info that you may have. Thank you again Bill. Frank

[Bill Murphy]

I don't have the order book information on your gun, but I would appreciate it if you would share it.

[Larry Stauch]

All of this is just TOO cool........

[Bill Murphy]

Tell me about it, Larry.

[FRANK HALSEY]

I will send you a copy of what I get plus I found out that Griffin & Howe has records on this gun. I will send that to you also. This is getting better and better. I always love to get the history on my guns. Thanks again, Frank

[Bill Murphy]

I forgot to tell you that I found the gun in the Griffin and Howe files. I don't know what information is there.

[FRANK HALSEY]

Here is the letter from Parker Bros. If you need anything more, let me know Thanks, Frank

[FRANK HALSEY]

Here are some pics of the gun. It looks just like my SC 12 ga. only smaller.

[Bill Murphy]

Frank, what did you get from Griffin and Howe? I have plenty of information about his Interstate Association and American Trapshooting Association activities.

[FRANK HALSEY]

Very little. They had it listed to sell in 1969 and it didn't so it went back to the owner. The owners name they had was not his real name???? That is all they had. Frank

[Brian Dudley]

I really like the look of the engraving on those earlier SCs before they used all that stippling.

[Bill Murphy]

Frank, I sent you a PM so I could confirm your address. The stuff on the gun will be on the way.

[Dean Romig]

Are 178050 and 234305 the only SC's in twenty gauge?

[FRANK HALSEY]

YEP. THAT IS MY ADDRESS. THANK YOU AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE SOUTHERN S X S. FRANK

[FRANK HALSEY]

Dean, I don't know. Bill might be able to answer that one. Thanks, Frank

[Bill Murphy]

Dean, I have the serial numbers in my files. I think there are five of them. Mine is 234,290. I can't find the numbers of the other three. They may be listed in The Parker Story. My neighbor up here in Western Maryland owns one, but I don't know his serial number. This Parker collecting is so much fun. I have some correspondence with the owner of one that he offered at an unacceptable price, but I don't know which one that is. Maybe I should have contacted the seller with an offer.

[Patrick Lien]

10+ years ago John Bridges had a almost new 20ga SBT at the Vegas show. We looked it up in the serial # book that I had just purchased and it was listed as a 12 ga.

Patrick

[Bill Murphy]

I'm sure you have that serial number in your records, Patrick.

[Patrick Lien]

I'm sure you have that serial number in your records, Patrick.

Oh no Bill, collecting serial #'s is not my thing. It was out of my price range and I had just purchased a 12 ga. SBT from Griffin & Howe. John asked if he could look at it and he also let me take his 20 out of the case and put it together for some swings on imaginary birds. He was a nice man and he had some really nice shotguns. Chris was there maybe he collected the serial #.

Patrick

[Scott Janowski]

I have a box of Shells for these!
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[Randy Davis]

Are shells For Sale ?

[Scott Janowski]

The shells are not for sale but I would trade them for 20 gauge Peters Skeet Loads in the Pumpkin box.

[Randy Davis]

Can`t help you there... I don`t collect skeet load boxes

[FRANK HALSEY]

Bill, I got your info on my gun. Thank you very much. It does answer some things I was wondering about. My Griffin & Howe letter states that a "chizar" was the owner of a gun that they listed for sale. That was in 1967-1968. On May 15, 1968, they returned the gun because it did not sell. Asking price was $ 3,150.00. The owner of the gun was to get $2,000.00. With your info, I have now figure out that Mr. Chizar was the owner that had passed away and they were selling it for his family. Thank you, Frank

[Bill Murphy]

End of the story.

[GunnerGrilli]

Are 178050 and 234305 the only SC's in twenty gauge?


Dean/All,


I show 234305 as the following........................I have the Hang Tag.


234305 SA C 12 30



Thanks,


Bobby

[Dean Romig]

There were five 20 gauge Parker SBT’s produced.





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[Phillip Carr]

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[Bill Murphy]

I will try to dig out the serial numbers of the five. I thought they were in this thread but they are not. The outing of this gun happened many years ago when the original (I think) owner wrote to Remington inquiring about the history of the gun. Dick Baldwin replied to him with a very vague reply. Years ago, Dick gave me his file of letters about Parkers sent by many owners over the years. Dick was the unofficial Parker historian at Remington when he was employed there. I met Frank Halsey at a Vintagers event years ago. He shared a dinner with Linda and me and we discussed Parker trap guns. We were competitive bidders when the 34" 20 SC came to auction some time later. I shared my Dick Baldwin information with Frank when I found out he had outbid me. Frank used our shared information to write a story in the Parker Pages. On Frank's death, the gun came to auction again, and, this time I bid successfully.

[Bill Murphy]

The serial numbers of the five 20 gauge Parker singles are 230,229, 26", 234,290, 30", 235,227, 28" according to the Serialization Book, and 178,050, 34". 236,019 is a B Grade (again according to the Serialization Book). Two or more have Colonel Cutts connections, probably experimental guns for his Cutts Compensator. 178,050 is the only one with order book provenance.

[J. Scott Hanes]

Bill,
My Serialization book shows 235727 as a "J H 0 P 12 28". Please clarify the serial number information you have. Thanks.

[Bill Murphy]

Sorry, it's 235,227, 28". I corrected my original post.

[J. Scott Hanes]

So that gun (235227) is actually an "S4" instead of "A4". And it has a straight grip? Thanks for the update; I made note in my Serialization book.

[Bill Murphy]

The build card for 235,227 is pictured in The Parker Story, but it is incorrectly described as 235,777. The numbers written on the card are not clear.

[Dean Romig]

Bill, if you would stop putting commas in those serial numbers, we could do our own research…





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[Bill Murphy]

That would be a project for you, Dean. All it will do for me is five more $40 checks to PGCA. I have only lettered 178050. I should letter 234290 to see whether the 12 gauge barrels are mentioned.