Stock shield

[dwight pugh]

i have a Remington VH double trap that is missing the stock shield. i looked for one on our forums & was immediately given one by another member , Chris Travinski , who wouldn't even let me pay him for it( Thanks Chris ).
but anyway back to my question...after further inspection, i found a wood screw in the middle of the recessed shield area ? it looks as though there is a piece of solder on one edge of the head. the shield i got from Chris came with two small brads to attach it with. did Remington use a different method for attaching shields & if so, how did they solder under the shield ?
i have filed off the solder , reinstalled screw to fill void and used the brads.

ddp

[Dave Suponski]

Dwight wether it's a Meriden gun or a Remington gin the only way I have seen them attatched is with the two brads.

[dwight pugh]

Thanks Dave...first one i"ve seen out so it's new to me

ddp

[scott kittredge]

I had a CHE with the screw to hold it on. made in 1906. I know this because it fell off when I was cleaning it. scott

[Brian Dudley]

That screw does not have anything to do with the shield. You can leave the screw or take it out. I would just pull it.
The shields are pretty much all the same size, so you should not have to do much inletting work. The bend of he shield may be a bit different and you may need to tweek that some.

What I do is glue the shield in with a strong glue or epoxy. Make sure to sand the back side of the shield so that the glue will stick well. After the glue sets up, drill out the holes for the brads and put them in. I never reuse the original brads. I put in new small brads and just file down the heads flush with the shield.

The factory only nailed the shields in with no glue. But brass corrodes, and that is what pushes the shields up off he wood is the corruption on the back side of the shield.
Gluing holds them in better, and putting the brads back in maintain a factory look.

[tom leshinsky]

I beg to differ I have a later VH (200K range)that has that same screw. It has a blob of solder on the head to hold the shield. I imagine they just heated the shield with a soldering iron to attach it.

[dwight pugh]

Tom you may be right...seems logical to me...even though i didn't pick up on it. thanks,

ddp

[Brian Dudley]

I have seen some original Parkers that do not have brads holding the shield in. They were all later guns. Maybe this is how the shields were attached on these guns.

[scott kittredge]

I have seen some original Parkers that do not have brads holding the shield in. They were all later guns. Maybe this is how the shields were attached on these guns.

Mine was made in 1906 with the solder shield, hmm:corn:

[Dave Suponski]

Interesting. I learn here every day. Now I gotta go check a few guns...

[Brian Dudley]

What I can say from every Parker (that I recall) that I have actually worked on, or taken apart for parts, the shields has been held in with brads. Same goes for Ovals on higher grades too. Like I said, I have seen stocks that have shields without brads, just never taken the shields out.

I do have an DH stock sitting around that has an oval with no brads though.

This does raise a very interesting question about Parkers applications of the metal mounting plates.

[John Dallas]

Seems to me that I remember a thread somewhere that talked about shields on English guns having a post on the back of them, and a hole in the stock which was filled with shellac and then the shield and pin were inserted. If you ever wanted to remove the shield, you heated the shield and the shellac melted, allowing removal

[Brian Dudley]

That is how galazans shields are. They have a single pin attached to be center back side of them.

[Brian Dudley]

This may or may not be of any interest, but I did a quick inventory of everything that I have here in the shop for guns and stocks to see how the shields / ovals are mounted.

I won't list the serial numbers and details on everything, but I have 19 examples here and 4 of them have metal mounted with no brads. The other 15 are mounted with brads. Of the 4 not mounted with brads 2 of them are shields and 2 of them are DH ovals.

The year range on the ones with brads are from 1891 - 1930 and the range of dates on the ones without brads is as early as 1903 and as late as 1938.

Of course, all the ones I have on hand that mount with no brads I have not removed and have no intention of doing so. So I am not sure how they mount.