first Parker

[Bill Ericksen]

Hi,
I recently got a ph 12 ga 30" sn. 2154xx Parker. It has mounts for sling swivels and I would like to know if these were a factory potion or after marker additions?
It is in fine shape the bbls. are missing bluing at the carring point but no scraches or rust or dents. The bores are perfect rt. 20 thou. choke left 30 thou. choke. The stock is uncut but the comb and belly are varnish free and very dark compared to the rest of the stock. The checkering is worn down to flat tipped diamonds , are flat top checkering the correct factory method for this period shotgun?
This is my first Parker and this site is great.

Thank you
Bill E.

[Larry Frey]

Bill,
If the swivels look like the ones shown below it's a good bet they are original because this gun lettered with sling swivels. You should check on the home page to see if the PGCA has records on your gun and if so a letter may answer your question. As for the flat top checkering on a P grade I believe that would be correct but someone else can verify that for you.

[Russ Jackson]

Larry; Great Pic. and very good info. ,I have seen a couple Parkers w/sling swivels ,but just always figured they were an after market add on ,Stupid question maybe ,but does the butt end have a tapped swivel or a slip on affair to add the sling to ? Russ

[Bill Murphy]

Yeah, Larry, let's see a picture of the read swivels.

[Larry Frey]

Bill & Russ,
Here is a pic of the butt stock with the stud but without the swivel attached. It's on a DHE 20 with 28" barrels and a 15 1/4" LOP.

[Russ Jackson]

Larry ; Thanks again ,next time I see a Parker with sling swivels ,I will definately pay more attention ! Don't you have to wonder , Why ,would you order sling swivels on a 20 Ga. gun ?

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Probably somebody that bird hunted with dogs. You don't really need your gun in your hands till there's a point. My uncle shot a little 20 gauge automatic on quail and carried it slung a lot of the time.

Destry

[Charlie]

My grandfather was a German immigrant and he had a german made double with sling swivels (as many of their guns have). The story my father told was that Papa said that swivels made the gun easy to carry to the field when riding a bicycle out to hunt. Maybe a slung gun was handy on horseback also. Charlie

[Ben Yarian]

That is an interesting thought, about riding the bike. When I was having a lot of problems with my knees, I used a sled to ride out of the woods at the end of the day. I climed the mountain in the morning to my favorite grouse cover. My large yellow lab pulled the sauser/sled on a rope attacted to his collar. I stashed the sled behind a large stump. by the end of the day my kneees would give out and cause me horrible pain when stepping down hill. so I would break down my gun put it in a soft case for a broken down gun put the case in my game poutch(it stuck out a little on each side). I then sat on the sled and carfully slid down the mountain useing a tree lim to guide and keep sled from going to fast. I could see where a sling would have been handy then.

Ben

[Dave Suponski]

Ben,After reading what you went through to get to the grouse covers I will never complain about my sore old knees when out hunting again. I swear..:bowdown:

[James T. Kucaba]

That is an interesting thought, about riding the bike. When I was having a lot of problems with my knees, I used a sled to ride out of the woods at the end of the day. I climbed the mountain in the morning to my favorite grouse cover. My large yellow lab pulled the saucer/sled on a rope attached to his collar. I stashed the sled behind a large stump. by the end of the day my knees would give out and cause me horrible pain when stepping down hill. so I would break down my gun put it in a soft case for a broken down gun put the case in my game pouch(it stuck out a little on each side). I then sat on the sled and carefully slid down the mountain using a tree limb to guide and keep sled from going to fast. I could see where a sling would have been handy then.

Ben


Ben ... I bread Labs for about 10 years and I've had a Loyal Labrador at my side for all but the last three years of my life, and I know for a fact that there's absolutely nothing a Lab won't do or at least attempt to do for it's master ... They're just the most loyal dogs on Planet Earth.

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

[Dave Fuller]

Gamekeepers and dog handlers frequently use shotgun slings, even on 20s. I have found myself wishing I had one more than once. A sling would be nice for walking back to the truck after covering a section of milo or a long popple stand. I just wouldn't want to look at it or get tangled up in it while shooting.

[Dean Romig]

So, just like with your deer rifle, keep the sling in your pocket until you need it.

[Dean Romig]

Ben,After reading what you went through to get to the grouse covers I will never complain about my sore old knees when out hunting again. I swear..:bowdown:

Promise?? I'm going to hold you to that :nono:

[Dave Suponski]

Yup,I'll swear to it cause by next year you will have forgotten...

[Ben Yarian]

Dave, I have had arthuritis since I was 29. I runs in my mothers family,bad. The doctor told me years ago that I would just have to take it easy. Not an option as far as I am concerend. At least while there are grouse in the covers and air in my lungs.

James, between my wife and I and daughters we have 8 labs. Theirs are pets and mine are bird dogs. As I write this there are 5 in the house, one of witch is laying under the computer desk, with his head on my feet. There is a sign on the living room wall that says "this house is maintained solely for the comfort of and convenience of the dogs."

Ben

[Dave Suponski]

Ben,You really are an inspiration..and I mean that.

[Bill Murphy]

Ben, and to a lesser extent, Jim, thanks for the information. I think I may plan for a hitch of four Wirehairs for use in my more feeble years. However, four Wirehairs may be about as useful as eighty cats for pulling me out of the woods. I will run it past Eva for her opinion. Actually, she has pulled me through a blackberry patch to get to a trio of bobwhites when I was "back" training her on a lead. She did everything right, but I forgot to let go of the lead. She wasn't busting the birds, she was merely following them aggressively.

[john hickerson]

This morning I had breakfast, sausage and waffles, with my Lab, Bay and setter Trad sleeping, one on each side. Love it.

Hick

[Jack Cronkhite]

A dog - free or $$$
A Parker - free or $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
A man, a dog and a Parker afield - PRICELESS

Cheers,
Jack