full blown nitro

[wayne goerres]

Just aquired my first double rifle today. It is a manton in 450x.400x3' nitro. Any body out there load for this caliber. Any info would be appreciated. Don't want to blow my self up. Or a very expensive gun.

[John Hancock]

You might post on the accuratereloading form. There are a lot of double rifle guys there.
Regards, JH

[Bill Murphy]

Wayne, sign up on the nitroexpress.com forum. One of the moderators of the double rifle subforum is my friend, "Capt Curl". Post on that subforum and he will fix you right up.

[Richard Flanders]

Pictures Wayne! A nice .45cal dbl rifle is one of my dream guns.

[wayne goerres]

I tryed to do the nitro express forun but I could not make it work. Something to do with my email address. Photos attached as per your request.

[Dennis V. Nix]

Beautiful rifle and a great caliber. Congratulations. I love double rifles.

Dennis

[Bill Murphy]

Richard, that would be a 40 caliber rifle. Keep trying the nitroexpress website. If you are unsuccessful, PM me and I will give you contact information for CaptCurl. He is an experienced double rifle reloader and has an astounding collection.

[Eldon Goddard]

That is a great all around caliber and can be used for some game in the U.S. unlike some other cartridges. I think the .450 range and up has very limited uses here. If you work up a load you should post your results here I would like to see if you get your load to match what it was originally regulated for. I

[wayne goerres]

This rifle has a load worked up for it useing 3031 powder and a dacron filler. Load looks pretty good but I am not sure how much filler to use. When I tryed to enroll on nitro express they wanted an email address but it could not be yahoo hot mail or the like. I dont no of any other types of email. Dose anybody no what they are talking about.

[edgarspencer]

I had a 450-400 3 1/4" H&H Royal grade sidelock, and it was a brutal beast using Kynoch ammo. I tried reloading it and the only loads that would shoot to the same point of impact were equally punishing. Since the only cases available used Berdan primers, and the Kynoch ammo was available, I gave up trying to reload it, and just shot Kynoch. The gun was overpowered for virtually any North American game that I hunted. I guess it would be good enough medicine for Grissly.

[wayne goerres]

Midway has kynoch ammo on sale . Its 90.00a box. UNfortunatly it is a box of 5 rounds. Talk about hurts. I can but the dies the bullets (woodleigh) the brass powder primers with change left over for the cost of 20rds of kynoch.

[edgarspencer]

Try buying a box of (5) .577NE for $90.
To say it was long time ago that I had my 450-400 3.25 Holland would be better put in terms of what the gun cost. $3500. Yeah, that was a while ago.
I had 6 best quality sidelock rifles from H&H (3), Purdey (2) and the sweetest Westley Richards drop lock .280FNE. They were converted into college tuitions for my twins.

[Brian Dudley]

Very nice rifle Wayne! Way to go.

[Richard Flanders]

A dealer friend up here had a completely custom single shot .700 Nitro made a few yrs back. What a monster! I'm sure it cost more than my house. Can't imagine buying the ammo for that thing. Those shells were huge.

[Rich Anderson]

That is a classic calibre to say the least. I think you would need enough dacron to keep the powder in place so it will burn uniformly. That will make a nice deer rifle for sure, were a little short on Lion in the USA:)

[wayne goerres]

I saw a couple of bunnys hopping around this morning. May be a little bit of over kill but there are no zoos close buy.

[Richard Flanders]

Maybe Hugh Hefner was passing through town....

[Dennis V. Nix]

Wayne you probably already know this but Hornady has 450-400 3 inch loaded cartridges for I believe about $130.00 per box of 20.

Dennis

[charlie cleveland]

sounds like a good enough round for a big deer with a little power left over..nice rifle wayne.... charlie

[wayne goerres]

Now I have two of these to shoot and I cant make up my mind witch one to shoot first. Decisions decisions.

[Dennis V. Nix]

Somebody has waaaaay too much time and/or money on their hands. I wish I had that problem. I once had a 470 Nitro and it is amazing how few of my friends would not even shoot just one shot from it. I will say that Elmer was right about big bore rifles, "You could eat right up to the hole."

[Rich Anderson]

I like to shoot deer and have way to many deer rifles but the one that causes the least amount of meat damage is the 416 Taylor. I shot through a deer lengthwise and didn't loose as much meat as from a 270. I used a Hawk 325 gr soft point. IF I had a big bore double rifle it would go to the deer woods with me no problem:)

[Dean Romig]

I shot through a deer lengthwise and didn't loose as much meat as from a 270. :)


'scuse me? Just where and with how many shots are you hitting a deer that results in lost meat?

:shock:

[wayne goerres]

right now I cant find any powder to load it with.Going to the woods with an unloaded gun is counter productive.

[Rich Anderson]

Dean when I slip a 130 gr NBT behind the shoulder (I really prefer the point of the shoulder) the off shoulder is always very blood shot. The meat is burger but a 325gr from the 416 through the shoulder doesn't result in as much meat loss. Don't get me wrong I like the 270 and have 2 of them and a 280 and 06 and well just about everything. :eek: