When did Parker introduce Vulcan steel?

[Aaron.dugger]

Hello all
I have a ph 12 gage manufactured 1897
But most of the info I've read says Vulcan
Steel came on the vh in 1899. Can anyone
Help me figure out when Vulcan steel became
Available ?

[Dave Suponski]

Aaron, Vulcan Steel barrels were first advertised in the 1899 catalog. Titanic Steel was first used in 1897 I believe.

[Aaron.dugger]

Thanks
The rib is clearly marked ( Vulcan steel ) & the serial numbers all match.
I'm assuming they probably sold a few before the started advertising.

[Chuck Bishop]

It's not uncommon for a higher grade to have Vulcan barrels. The original barrels could have been damaged and Parker would have used Vulcan barrels as a replacement. Quite often higher grade guns have had a 2nd set of Vulcan barrels added. Vulcan barrels were cheaper in price than Titanic/Acme/Peerless/Whitworth barrels.

[Aaron.dugger]

Would the company have kept record of the barrels being replaced ?

[Chuck Bishop]

Yes, it would be in the Order/Repair books if done in Meriden.

[E Robert Fabian]

I had a 1895 BH with 30" Damascus barrels that was sent back in 1905 for a second set of 28" Vulcan Steel barrels.

[Aaron.dugger]

What does that do to the value? Who's reputable
To clean up or restore? Can I run high brass through
It?

[Mark Ouellette]

Aaron,

Please know that pressure is the important factor in how strong an action or barrels are. Further, low brass or high brass is no indicator of the pressure a shell will generate. The SAAMI maximum mean working pressure for 12 gauge 2 3/4" and 3" ammunition is 11,500. Most modern loads are designed to function dirty semi automatic shotguns and will generate somewhere close to the SAAMI 11,500 PSI. Those promotional low brass shells sold at Wal-Mart all function autoloaders and do this by generating a fairly high pressure.

High brass shells do tend to carry a heavier shot load which at the same muzzle velocity as a lower payload, generates higher recoil than do low brass shells with lower shot loads.

So, are Vulcan barrels safe for high brass shells? Probably if they have not been honed and retain sufficient barrel wall thickness. Will your stock survive a steady diet of heavy shot loads generating high recoil? Probably not! many stocks have been soaking up oil for decades which ran down from the barrels and action. The wood where the stock meets the action may be very soft. A few high brass/high recoil loads and you may have a new crack in the stock which will cost a couple hundred or more to have professionally repaired. That is why one sees older side x sides with bolts pinning the stock just behind the action!

Most of us handload low pressure with low shot loads and break clays all day long.

The best thing to do is to have you gun checked by a gunsmith who knows side by sides.

Mark

[Aaron.dugger]

Thanks everyone !
That's a lot of good information.

[Phillip Carr]

Aaron, does your gun start with S/N 822xx if so there was a dozen of early guns that were made with Vulcan Barrels. I own S/N 82226 and it letters with Vulcan barrels.

[George Lander]

It is a generally accepted fact that all Parker fluid steel barrels were made of the same steel, the exception being those of Sir Joseph Whitworth. Parker used the various terms show above (Trojan, Vulcan, Acme, Peerless, etc.) more to determine grade and the degree of embelishment.

Best Regards, George

[Aaron.dugger]

The S/N is 81356.

[Aaron.dugger]

I have uploaded some photos of the gun to my albums.
Take a look . Any info on its condition or originality is appreciated .

[Dave Suponski]

George Sir, That has not been proven yet.....:rolleyes:

[Aaron.dugger]

The S/N is 86513

[Mills Morrison]

I have uploaded some photos of the gun to my albums.
Take a look . Any info on its condition or originality is appreciated .

Great pictures. Your gun looks to be a good honest shooter. The kind I like. Now you need to join PGCA