BH Again, Help with Value, Restore or not?

[Eric Olson]

I am decided to list the gun for sale in the Members Section before going to Gunbroker or an Auction House.

[C.O.B.]

I have not seen it there yet.

[winplumber]

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[Dean Romig]

I suspect he's been busy answering PM's

[Eric Olson]

Out of town for the weekend - hopefully will post Monday PM - or interested parties can PM me with questions. STILL not sure what it is worth.

[winplumber]

You mean your taking offers until Monday ? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A OFFER !

[Eric Olson]

OK - In response to the interest, I have put up an Ad.

[charlie cleveland]

i ll start the bid with a dollar.. but then if it were my gun it would not be for sale... charlie

[AmarilloMike]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

The V grade replacement barrels might hurt it some but they are documented in the letter.

I can't find any mention of them in the letter.

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

When discussing the fluid steel barrels on this B Grade 20, posters seem to forget or not know that these barrels were installed at Remington by Parker Gun Works employees and have factory markings. They are factory original. With two sets of Remington repair codes, I doubt that any work done on the gun was done by anyone other than Parker Gun Works employees.

I looked in The Parker Story, page 158 and the picture provided by Eric above. I interpret one repair code as RJ3, which I translate as meaning the repair or alteration or whatever was done in November of 1940. The 3 in RJ3 has no lookup chart in TPS that I can find.

The other repair code XP3 I can only translate that the work was done in November, the P not being in the year codes. Am I misreading the P? Is it a B (1955)?

The "V Grade 20 gauge" stamped on the lug matches the protocol shown in the picture of the lug of the D grade 20 on page 162, which is in the chapter about Parker/Remingtons.

In TPS I can't find any examples of the serial number stamped in the same location as on Eric's gun. But there aren't very many pictures of Parker/Remington barrel flats either. I don't own any Remington Parkers and so don't have any examples to compare this to.

On page 129 in TPS they discuss reports of aftermarket ejectors by third parties and give an apparently first hand account of a BH, serial number 79051. with non-standard ejectors.

The pictures of Eric's knuckle and forend iron look identical to my Parker ejectors guns. The serial number on Eric's forend iron is in the same location as my ejector guns. The May 1 1901 patent date appears on Eric's forend iron in the same place as it does on my guns. It seems to me that someone would have had to tig weld up, re-stamp, re-case color, and re-patina the serial number in the forend iron or they started with a forend iron without a serial number on it like the Parker/Remington factory would have. Same thoughts on the water table. Seems to me unlikely that a rascal would go to all that trouble for such a high cost to low benefit ratio effort.

I don't know when Parker or Parker/Remington first started putting "Overload Proved" in an oval on the barrel flats or "Made in the USA" but there might be some time information there.

Eric that is a cool gun. Thanks for posting it here.




Best,


Mike

[Bill Murphy]

I don't know about the repair codes, only that they are repair codes. As for "third party ejectors", that's not what they are. They are Parker ejectors. As for the forend, no part of an extractor forend, including wood, was used by Parker or Remington to make an ejector gun. This is not the forend that came on the gun. As for the V Grade markings on the lug, Remington replacement barrels were almost always marked V Grade. Only barrel lugs on Remington made guns were normally marked with the actual grade of the gun. This gun is absolutely right, and factory modified, regardless of any omission in the letter. Rich's statement about the letter documenting the barrels was an oversight, but PGCA letters will almost never address any specific Remington modifications.