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Unread 01-04-2014, 07:15 PM   #1
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Yes Ed I have...
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harry: sorry, will not reveal the source of info...friendship is to valuable for that.
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Engravers bailed??? And what does that have to do with case coloring?

Yes, during the depression, employment at Meriden was at a low, but so was gun production.
Why would anyone during a depression bail? If jobs were available, people kept them.

And, not to mention, there is documentation that Ilion was having a hard time getting correct colors on Parkers after the 1938 move. They had to consult with former Meriden employees like JP Hayes to get the process right.
So... Why would Ilion be doing Meriden's coloring in 1935?
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Bob Runge began work in the Parker Gun Works in 1934 and continued working as an engraver for Parker guns under the ownership of Remington, eventually becoming their chief engraver. The engraving Ed shows on his G has some of the identifying characteristics of Runge's work, most especially the bob-white on the floor plate, and I believe it is all, in fact, early Bob Runge engraving.
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Was not trying to be sarcastic. I know I have come across "interesting" Parkers at gun shows over the years. More, years ago, then now. One particular example was where a V grade was being represented as a D grade after some obvious "updating" had taken place. When another Parker collector questioned him about the irregularties in the engraving the owner proceeded to tell the story that during the period you are inquiring about Parker used women, secretly, to do the engraving. Meant no dis-respect, but stories regarding Parkers and their origin and circumstances have always been out there.

I do not have the Parker knowledge to make a judgement on your question.

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Unread 01-04-2014, 07:47 PM   #6
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I've only had a few G grade hammerless guns, and recently bought a GHE from about the same period as the example you show in the first post. Mine is like your second posted gun, and I can't recall seeing one like the first one.
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Edgar, I have seen a few with similar engraving to ed's first example.... and I believed those also were very early Bob Runge engraved.
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well, now we are startin to get some where...any body got any known runge pitchers that they would care to share? did runge sign his work? if so, where?
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well, now we are startin to get some where...any body got any known runge pitchers that they would care to share? did runge sign his work? if so, where?
Hello Ed ,This gun is not a G Grade but a CHE and is believed to be a Runge Engraved Gun ,Serial # 240983 ,not too far off the Gun pictured ! Quail also on the bottom of this gun ,I don't know if this is a good comparison but have no G Grade guns at the moment in that serial # area ,hope this might help ! By the way that is a nice G Grade you have pictured ! Russ
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While he worked for Remington/Parker I don't believe we have any knowledge of Bob Runge signing his work. There are numerous examples of his signed engraving while he and DelGrego were producing upgraded Parkers.
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