Two old guys, two old 10 Bores, 10 birds in the boat

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by scott kittredge

Hi, ok this is what i have been shooting for awhile now. Yes the 4756 and The 76 something powder all suck in cold weather I load.Fed or winchester hull, 38 grs blue dot, fed 209A primer, rem sp 10 wad, with a.100 16 or 20 ga card wad under shot and fold crimp. Put .100 under shot i found if you put it on top it opened my patterns up by 50%. And my goose loads same powder, primer,wad with 1 3/8 ths oz bismuth but no .100 filler card under shot. Now with that said this is what i shoot i am not telling anyone to do the same. I shoot 4s for duck and decoying geese. And goose only i shoot 1, s and bb,s.
Scott

Sounds similar to what im loading for the 10 but with 34grs of bluedot and 1 3/8oz

[charlie cleveland]

looks like them old tens were smokeing hot....that's what the big tens were built for....I have never seen a h r double barrel ten...you will have to do a write up and some pictures of it...charlie

[Gene Danielson]

10 bore Thank you for that info; I'll try your Bluedot loads. As an aside I tried some loads with Longshot but could not get patterns much above 50 %. The 4756 was giving me 70+%, but of course that was summer when I did my patterning. They were useless once season got going with cooler temps.


Thanks again

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Gene Danielson

10 bore Thank you for that info; I'll try your Bluedot loads. As an aside I tried some loads with Longshot but could not get patterns much above 50 %. The 4756 was giving me 70+%, but of course that was summer when I did my patterning. They were useless once season got going with cooler temps.


Thanks again

I am surprised that Longshot threw an IC pattern through what was shooting a full choke pattern with 4756. How many grains of Longshot and what was the charge weight? Were you using a plastic wad? Longshot can deliver some very fast velocities and bismuth doesn't react well to that.

[Gene Danielson]

Load had 30 grain Longshot, SP10 wad with cards and 1.25oz #4 bismuth. Speed maybe the problem as you indicated. Did not pursue loading Longshot any further because 12 ga bismuth loads I tried had similar poor patterns. The 12 ga loads were cataloged in the manual at 1250fps. Don't know speed on 10ga; not pressure nor speed tested.

[10 bore]

Originally Posted by Gene Danielson

10 bore Thank you for that info; I'll try your Bluedot loads. As an aside I tried some loads with Longshot but could not get patterns much above 50 %. The 4756 was giving me 70+%, but of course that was summer when I did my patterning. They were useless once season got going with cooler temps.


Thanks again

i am getting 80 % pulse patterns with my loads, i do alot of testing. biggest thing is keep all filler wads under your shot , on top of it will open up your patterns.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by scott kittredge

i am getting 80 % pulse patterns with my loads, i do alot of testing. biggest thing is keep all filler wads under your shot , on top of it will open up your patterns.

I havnt gotten around to patterning mine yet, I need to buy some nitro cards but then I will need to get those pressure tested. I have seen load data in other gauges where adding a nitro card increased pressures up to 2500 psi.

I have noticed with larger shot sizes a overshot card no longer sits properly but a 1/4" fiber wads does but who knows how that will affect patterns.