Rare BHE .410 4/0-frame sighting

[SXS OHIO]

Chaddic had one of the two know true 0000 frame guns. I did see pictures of it but not good ones, it only was 410 and 5lbs. About the other 33 guns you speak of, they are on 00 frames... end of story unless you can show pictures of the frame with no balls....I saw this or that but no pictures have ever shown up. Look back in the old threads, lots of speculation but never any real proof. Think about the 410 barrels, they are made to mate to 28ga. 00 frames. If the frame was little the barrels would hang out past the breach balls. It just can't work. oooo frame stand alone 410 never got past the one or two prototypes. Im real sure there is not 33 of them. Thanks all, SXS ohio

[Wild Skies]

Bill, how do you know which frame size the 9 .410 BHEs listed in the production chart were built on?

I have to think that the 33 DHE .410s listed in the production chart were extrapolated from the Sisley article---although the Sisley article did not mention what grade they were finished out in.

Where did I say "the BHE grade 0000 frame .410 was unusual among 0000 frame .410s." Or did you take what I said out of context? Unusual, to me, is something that is not usual. I have been at the Repro game since the mid 80s and I hoisted a grand total of just one 0000-frame gun. That, in my world, qualifies as something that is unusual or not usually seen.

[Bill Murphy]

On page one of this thread, in your paragraph you numbered "1.", is where I see that you stated that there "were few 0000 guns and even fewer B Grades". In fact, most were B grades. I can see where you meant that if there were one 0000 gun that was not a B Grade, your statement makes sense. I apologize for my misunderstanding your point.

[C.O.B.]

Oh come on lets beat it some more....I'm glad I got a Fox FE 410

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

Oh come on lets beat it some more....I'm glad I got a Fox FE 410

You just gotta love this type of thread busting post.

Oh well, I learned something from the discussion and hope others did as well.

[C.O.B.]

Greg I learned a few things myself Hope to see you at a shoot sometime

[Wild Skies]

If you've never seen and/or would like to take a look at a Parker Reproduction BHE .410 on a 0000-frame, go here:

http://www.icollector.com/Parker-by-...6-b_i10488354#

I believe we discussed this very gun a few years ago. You can see another, this one engraved by Geoffroy Gournet, on pages 38 & 39 of the Winter 2013 DGJ.

[Bill Murphy]

Now there is a picture I can live with. THIS is nobody's 00 frame. Thanks.

[Wild Skies]

When taking another look at the 4/0-frame BHE .410 in the above link I cannot say with absolute certainty that the DHE engraved BHE that was shown in Vegas didn't have the single bead, too. As you can see, the bead appears a little different on the 4/0-frame than on the larger frames.

[Bill Murphy]

Yes, the entire bead and ball area is inletted into the frame on the 0000 frame gun. It is very different from the 00 frame configuration. The gun in the auction pictures is probably a Robert Petersen gun and was the buy of the century in Parker Repros. I have no idea who owns it now.