Question for the 10ga. Folks

[Cold Spring]

Anyone wanting to get into 10 ga reloading might look at my advert to sell an as new MEC press complete with 2-7/8" short kit AND 500+ SP-10 wads in the Members Forums.

[Keith Doty]

REALLY glad I found the guy in Canada with a ton of SP-10s a while back. I bought a bunch and I believe Craig did as well. BP has their BP1044s in stock at $25 for 250. I'd be inclined to try'em before Ebaying at $75/250. I use BP wads for nearly every load I shoot in 12,16, and 20. Never any issues, work well for me.

[Mike of the Mountain]

The BP1044 work well too.

[Keith Doty]

Haven't tried the "new" ones, I shot some of the 10ga. wads they had a while back before they disappeared and they were just fine. If/when I run out of SP-10 you can bet I'll be getting some of the BP 1044 before I pay crazy money for the old Remington wads.

[24 grams]

OK, I finally have my supply of primed Cheddite hulls and BP wads.
What is the best powder CURRENTLY AVAILABLE to load 1 1/8 ounce target loads in my old 10s?
I have Perfect Pattern, which seems too fast, and Winchester Super Handicap, which seems too slow burning.
I also have some International.
Any suggestions?
Most of the powders in the spreadsheet seem “unobtanium.”

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Steven Groh

OK, I finally have my supply of primed Cheddite hulls and BP wads.
What is the best powder CURRENTLY AVAILABLE to load 1 1/8 ounce target loads in my old 10s?
I have Perfect Pattern, which seems too fast, and Winchester Super Handicap, which seems too slow burning.
I also have some International.
Any suggestions?
Most of the powders in the spreadsheet seem “unobtanium.”

Hodgdon International is very close to Alliant Green Dot. I would not be afraid to try 22 grains of International with 1 1/8 ounce lead. It would be an untested load if you decide to try it but I believe the risk of something bad happening in a sound gun is negligible.

[Dakota Jeff]

Here is a load I had tested at Precision if it helps you out.

[24 grams]

Originally Posted by Jeff Sweeter

Here is a load I had tested at Precision if it helps you out.

Well, I have tried this one out with a variety of 16 gauge wad spacer combinations, and I still don't get very good crimps. (These are my first ten attempts from left to right).

1 1/8 ounce of 7 1/2s doesn't come close to filling the shot cup, and it seems to take closer to 5/8" or even 3/4" of spacing to work.

I have tried putting the fiber cushion in the bottom and the hard spacer on top, and I even tried putting some fiber spacer under the wad.

Does anyone have any tricks to share?

IMG_3104.jpg

[Dakota Jeff]

Are you using the x10x gas seal beneath the wad? They are approximately 1/8" thick? It looks like maybe too deep pre crimp by the marks in between the folds and with crimper set a bit too deep will cause the folds to swirl,grabbing too much of the hull to fold in.If on a Mec loader,raise the cam up a little.And with not enough filler this can easily happen.I have also used a 10 gauge hard card beneath the wad instead of the gas seal.It takes up about the same space and does the same job but this test was done with gas seal.One way or another you need a little more filler and adjust your crimper a little higher,or lighter.If you can't get it figured out ill dig out some components tomorrow and see exactly what is needed. The shells I loaded crimped nice.I don't remember if I loaded them on a Mec,or a PW. They both load nice shells.Jeff.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Steven Groh

Well, I have tried this one out with a variety of 16 gauge wad spacer combinations, and I still don't get very good crimps. (These are my first ten attempts from left to right).

1 1/8 ounce of 7 1/2s doesn't come close to filling the shot cup, and it seems to take closer to 5/8" or even 3/4" of spacing to work.

I have tried putting the fiber cushion in the bottom and the hard spacer on top, and I even tried putting some fiber spacer under the wad.

Does anyone have any tricks to share?

Attachment 135377

Your goal should be to get your loads to look like the sixth shell from the left.

You need to be sure to have as much filler in the shot cup behind the shot as needed to get the shot column to about 1/4 of an inch below the mouth of the case for a fold crimp. Avoid putting anything over the shot except a very thin over shot card and if you want the best patterns don't put anything over the shot as it will disrupt the pattern even to the point of making a spreader load.

Brand new Cheddite hulls do not crimp as nice as other hulls, especially Federal. The more they are fired the better they get.

If your crimp is normal but has a hole in the center or is swirled and you are loading with a MEC single stage loader you need to adjust the cam.

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/bp...ust/mecadj.htm