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Unread 12-04-2024, 07:28 PM   #1
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The Syracuse and Albany shows I remember best were the one where I bought a 95% condition 1909 hammerless 8 gauge with 36” barrels (Albany) and Syracuse where I picked up a 34” hammer 8. Today’s shows do not have stuff like that.
I’d loved to have seen both of them ! Had a pair of 36” hammer 8’s and a pair of 34” hammerless 8’s . Your 34” hammer gun might just have matched up well with the DH 34” I have at the present .
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Bill Joliff, I can not remember that 06 or its sale to you. I do have a very nice 06 that I got from an undertaker friend������. Currently I am more into Winchester 22s than Parkers. Have sold off a number of my Parkers. My son in law, Danny, will probably get whats left when I go to the big gun show in the sky. I have not gone to the Syracuse gun show in a few years because its 95% junk and black guns. The Syracuse and Albany shows I remember best were the one where I bought a 95% condition 1909 hammerless 8 gauge with 36” barrels (Albany) and Syracuse where I picked up a 34” hammer 8. Todays shows do not have stuff like that. Bill Murphy, the catalog goes out as soon as I get your missive. Thanks,, guys
I well remember that hammerless 8 gauge. It was a Grade 1 if I remember and we did an article in Parker Pages that had pictures of that magnificent Parker.





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Bill, I have not gotten it yet. I'll be looking for it and will comment on here. When did you mail it? Thanks, Murphy
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Bill, I got the booklet and it is great. It is similar to another 1913 booklet in my collection but with different colors and a bit different pricing. Thank you so much.
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Glad you like it Bill. I have some other Parker paper and odd ball items that I plan to put up for sale here. Nothing fantastic, just interesting
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Like most of the longtime gun shows, the Syracuse and Albany shows have gone the way of the MREs. black gun accessories, and flavored venison jerky assortments. Never bought a gun at Syracuse, but scored the very best 32" Browning Superposed Grade 3 ("Fighting Cocks") trap with the narrow rib, long tang and round knob grip I'd ever seen from the Hartman Bros. (Elmira Arms) at a fall Albany show one year.

Price was obscenely cheap; "No one wants those old long-barreled Browning traps unless they're a Broadway rib!" I stopped at the show on a whim while on the way to visit with PGCA Historian and TPS co-author Roy Gunther, then living in Averill Park, just east of Albany, to research the Sunderland gun, which I subsequently wrote an article on for the Double Gun Journal ("The Graduation Gun"). Weather was perfect for travel and shunpike diversions; the show and my visit with CDR Gunther made for a near-perfect road trip.
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Once in a while you could catch one on the Hartman boys, but not often.
They were very shrewd traders.

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Like most of the longtime gun shows, the Syracuse and Albany shows have gone the way of the MREs. black gun accessories, and flavored venison jerky assortments. Never bought a gun at Syracuse, but scored the very best 32" Browning Superposed Grade 3 ("Fighting Cocks") trap with the narrow rib, long tang and round knob grip I'd ever seen from the Hartman Bros. (Elmira Arms) at a fall Albany show one year.

Price was obscenely cheap; "No one wants those old long-barreled Browning traps unless they're a Broadway rib!" I stopped at the show on a whim while on the way to visit with PGCA Historian and TPS co-author Roy Gunther, then living in Averill Park, just east of Albany, to research the Sunderland gun, which I subsequently wrote an article on for the Double Gun Journal ("The Graduation Gun"). Weather was perfect for travel and shunpike diversions; the show and my visit with CDR Gunther made for a near-perfect road trip.
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Once in a while you could catch one on the Hartman boys, but not often.
They were very shrewd traders.
At the Syracuse, Albany and Rochester shows, you also would likely see Jim Austin (Kittery Point), Pete Harvey, Randy Shuman and Hershel Chaddick. And that big, tall Jewish guy from Long Island who usually had nice stuff on his table (I can't remember his name).

Those were the days. New York state politicians have pretty much doomed anything like that anymore.
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Hi Bill,

His name was Henry Christman, and he found me some truly outstanding doubles in NYC and out on Long Island.
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Hi Bill,

His name was Henry Christman, and he found me some truly outstanding doubles in NYC and out on Long Island.
Yep, that was him. Henry was kind of a big guy who was pleasant and had nice stuff.

Thanks for remembering Tom.
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