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Unread 12-16-2023, 05:25 PM   #1
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John: it is a desirable gun with significant value, but it is not for you. At this point in our shooting life we're all probably dealing with enough frustrations...vision, reaction time, loss of muscle mass, body parts that don't work like they once did
Trade it or sell it and get one that fits your shooting style. This is supposed to be fun brother

Simply raising the front bead (yeah I know we don't look at it) will lower your POI, but if your sight picture is firmly imprinted in looking straight down the rib, that may not work.
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Unread 12-18-2023, 10:16 AM   #2
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If it was mine I’d lower the comb. We’ve seen many entries in the records of guns being returned for new dimensions on the stocks. If it fits you’ll shoot it well. Make it fit and shoot it, that’s what these guns were made for. Last thing I’d recommend is “learning to float the bird”. It’s not a consistent method.

I actually just bought a 32” 12g VH on a 3 frame that was a bit too high. Took the comb down and now that gun turns them into diesel smoke because it shoots where I’m looking.
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Here's there problem with us old guys shooting high stocked guns.
The RedLine is our 'sight line', from eyeball to Bird (black) X

The Black line is the gun's barrel axis. We are looking, (red line)eyeball to the bird along a path which isn't parallel to the barrel axis (black line)

If we 'could learn' to "float the bird", we would look at the imaginary bird at the
Blue X. That's the Green line.

Changing the length of pull, or Pitch Angle will change how the butt contacts our shoulder, but it won't bring that red line down to parallel the black line.
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That is correct Edgar. Floating a bird is like using a sustained lead (maintained lead) on every target. It’s a method that works and sometimes, depending on the shooter and target, it can work well. Sometimes being the key word. You have to be right on, head-hands-eyes working in synch perfectly and seeing the bird-barrel relationship exactly. One day you can crush everything with that method. Next day you may be a bit distracted or tired. Maybe you have eye fatigue and that method just will not hit a bull in the ass with a shovel if you’re standing right next to him. It’s tough to maintain consistency that way.
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At my age, I'm not trying to get better - Just get worse at the slowest rate possible
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At my age, I'm not trying to get better - Just get worse at the slowest rate possible
Now that there is funny — demoralizingly so. I feel your pain (pains?).
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It's a Josh Lowensteiner gun which is too nice to muck up
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John, as another who cannot tolerate mashing my cheek into the stock, or floating a bird, I'd move it on and find one stocked more suitably. I just cannot shoot a shotgun with less than 2 3/8" at heel, and 2 1/2" is better for me. I don't shoot trap, either, so "built in lead" is not something I need.

However, if the gun really wants to stay with you one consideration is having another buttstock built for it with your dims and saving the original for the next owner, to preserve the value. It's an expensive option, but an option nonetheless.
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I will be dead before I could get a good stock made by the right guy
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New thought. Anyone got a "regular" stock for a 2 frame?
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