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03-24-2016, 09:51 AM
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I know the feeling !
That's a nice gun. I really need a Jones underlever for my collection. (Even the wife thinks they're cool!) |
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03-24-2016, 10:09 AM
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I have heard that kapok is a good filler. (It's a natural fiber, commonly used in pillows, etc.) However, I don't know where one can buy it, except on-line. But, we can all get cotton a whole lot easier ! If you did order a pillow full of kapok on-line, it'll probably last a lifetime...
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03-24-2016, 11:14 AM
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This filler topic is of interest. I use cherrios in my shotgun loads as filler in 3/4 oz loads so the crimp won't buckle below the rim of the case but I doubt that would work in a rifle. I have a Ruger #1 450/400 NE 3 inch I want to load with 30gr of Trail Boss and a Hornady XTP pistol bullet. From the info I have I should get 1600-1800-fps which will make for a good 100 yard deer set up. My question is will I need a filler such as cotton or daycron to keep the powder charge compact so I will get the full ignition?
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03-24-2016, 11:30 AM
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Let us consider empirical evidence:
Dacron has been known to ring chambers. Foam/plastic wads have been known to ring chambers. Pass a torch over either and you get plastic goo. Not carbon dust. Cotton (or kapok) has never ringed a chamber. How much is your classic barrel worth to you? |
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03-24-2016, 12:30 PM
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Cream of wheat has also been used ass a filler, but that is very dense & I would not recommend it. (They say it smells good too...)
COB, I have actually heard people comment that Trail Boss tends to result in fairly low pressures and velocity. In fact, sometimes a full case (compressed load) of that powder doesn't give the velocity that some people seek. These are all general statements, and of course, you must follow the manuals - but my point is that you may end up with a case that has an adequate volume of powder, and thus may not need a filler. |
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03-24-2016, 12:40 PM
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Unfortunately in this instance there isn't any real hard data and no manual to go by. The only published load data is for 400 gr bullets. I don't need a 400gr soft point at 2300FPS to kill a deer. I know using a gun suitable for Elephant on a deer is a little strange but a reduced load should work quite well. I have worked up a load of 72gr of H4895 and a 300gr Hornady for about 2200FPS. The XTP pistol bullets I use in my muzzleloader work very well on deer I figured they should work well in this application also. 30 gr of trail Boss isn't much powder for such a big case and my concern is I won't get even ignition without using something to hold the powder in place.
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03-24-2016, 08:43 PM
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I also have a 450x400x3" but it is a double rifle. Small amounts of powder in such large cases require some thing over the top. If I remember correctly they don't recommend using any type of wad or filler with trail boss. I also remember reading that trail boss recommends a minimum of 70% case capacity. I know it is light and fluffy and about half the density of most rifle powders. I would probable contact the manufactures for advice.
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