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paul i had never shot steel so i thought i wouldtry it and pattern it....well you know the outcome it just aint as good as lead....ive patterned some 7 1/2 steel shot and it really impressed me on the patterns it throwed...but theres just not enough bb sin a 1 ounce 12 load todo anything but touse on shots over decoys at close range...my next try with steel shot will be with the 10 and 12 ga 3 1/2 inch hulls.... charlie