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charlie, why are you even messing with steel if you aren't gonna hunt duck or geese ? That stuff won't kill anything past about 40yds. My buddy goes goose hunting out west and got nothing but feathers - was useing steel - and he ask me why. He says " we were shooting so much, I didn't want to pay the high price for those other shells". JA is right - don't waste your time with steel. Paul
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