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1895 12 GAUGE PARKER..DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
Unread 10-03-2011, 06:51 PM   #1
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Default 1895 12 GAUGE PARKER..DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT?

HELLO I HAVE AN EARLY PARKER DOUBLE HIGHLY ENGRAVED LOOKS TO HAVE A REBARREL NUMBERS MATCHING BARREL MARKED PARKER GUN WORK. I SET AN ALBUM UP THE SERIAL NUMBER IS #84025 ANYTHING ANYONE CAN TELL ME ABOUT IT WILL BE APPRECIATED. THANKS RON
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Unread 10-03-2011, 07:22 PM   #2
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The action frame is marked for a G grade. The engraving is not characteristic of a G.
The stock is styled to look like a B grade.
The barrels are take off s from a late 1/2 frame V grade.

Certainly an interesting gun, and as you can see, it is assembled from components of different grades and ages.

Bruce Day, novice Parker non expert who refers all valuation questions to Bill Murphy.
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What is the exact distance between the firing pins?
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THANKS I AM TRYING TO DETERMINE A VALUE FOR MY INSURANCE. WHY IS THE BARREL NOT MARKED ON THE RIB? THANKS AGAIN RON
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EDGE OF HOLE TO EDGE OF HOLE 15/16"
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We need the distance center to center.
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Bruce presents an interesting scenario, but there aren't many examples of 1/2 frame barrel sets being scavenged from junk guns. The engraving looks like a factory upgrade and the barrels are probably factory installations. We need much better pictures to determine whether Remington repair stamps indicate the gun was at Remington for this work. Take closeup, well lighted pictures of the barrel flats and the water table of the frame. There are serial numbers stamped on the barrel flats. This indicates a factory job. My guess is that the gun was sent to the factory for new barrels and upgrading engraving to C or B Grade including B Grade wood. The engraving was probably done by Robert Runge. The frame was probably originally a #1 frame, which is compatible with the Remington era 1/2 frame barrels. The #1 and #1/2 frame pin separation is 1 1/16".
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..... My guess is that the gun was sent to the factory for new barrels and upgrading engraving to C or B Grade including B Grade wood. The engraving was probably done by Robert Runge.....

Are you saying you think the stock carving and checkering is Remington factory work and that you believe the wood is B grade quality? I'm not sure I understand by what you mean about the Scores gun having " B grade wood".

To my novice eye, I see a difference between the Scores gun and the 1911 B grade, but then , I don't have a Rem Parker B grade to look at.
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Well if Bruce is just a novice Parker guy, what's below that because that's what I am. But I'll give you my opinion anyway!

It's a project gun, nothing more.

It started out as a GH and was sent to Remington for new barrels, that's pretty much given.

At some point in time, the buttstock was enhanced with B type checkering but not up to Parker or Remington standards. Notice the cheek panel is elongated and the border looks to be a single line extending back to form the fleur de lis. The pistol grip checkering has no mullard border or any border for that matter. From what I've seen, Remington Parker's had at least some type of border and Meriden Parker's had a mullard border. The serial number is correct under the tang and from the one picture of the buttstock, there appers to be the shield, not the oval at the bottom of the stock.

The forend is a different matter. The checkering appears to be correct for a BH Parker. Since the serial number is correct for the iron, my guess would be that a B forend wood was found, the engraving for the forend latch and tip were filed off for later engraving which was never done. The only way to find out if the wood is original or a replacement would be to pull the iron off the wood and look for the serial number on the forend wood just like was done on the buttstock. It would be good to look for the serial number on the forend tip also.

Who knows about the engraving on the receiver, it could have been done by Remington or an outside source. Only someone real familiar with Remington engraving could give a clue. Best source would be the Del Grego's.

A very interesting Parker but Special, no.

That's my take.
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1 1/16"

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