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I guess calling a BHE and A1-Special is worth quite a lot! http://www.gunsinternational.com/PAR...n_id=100189507 |
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And he still has the picture of the BHE in the ad. He's just having fun.
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Well Francis these guns are for sport so by definition it is not a rational choice. All the rational people are in the drive-up line at Kentucky Fried Chicken, not out in the field pursuing their Gallinaceous birds with pointing dogs and a Parker 410.
In regard to crippling I argue that it is the sportsman and not the gauge that determines that outcome. I went to public schools and don't own a 410. Best, Mike |
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| The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Mike Shepherd For Your Post: |
| I guess I'll beg to differ on that |
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I went to Catholic schools (semi-public in the 1950's as we also had some non-Catholic students in our classes then too) But I disagree on the sportsman/gauge theory for game birds- you can shoot or shoot at all the clays, crows, barn pigeons, starlings, whatever is legal for a 12 bore with a .410 and you won't hear a squawk of protest from me. I stay with my 12 bores (I do own 3 20's- will be Grandsons' starter guns later on) because at age 70 I kill more efficiently and hit birds that I might miss with the lighter bore guns I carried and shot when I was 35- I also gravitate towards 28" and 30" barrels with tighter chokes, my reaction time is also slower and a muzzle forward balanced shotgun works best for me.
All my shotgunning gurus, now all gone- favored the 12 bore guns: Captain Paul Curtis, Nash Buckingham, Havilah Babcock, Archibald Rutledge, Ray P. Holland, Captain Harold Money, both my late father and grandfather as well. The only exception to this stellar list of "Shootin'Ist Gentlemen" might be the late Dwight D. Eisenhower, who sometimes uses his M42 Winchester on quail. And my all-time favorite Army General, George Smith Patton Jr.-had a borrowed 12 bore side-by-side with him when he endured the fatal (3 weeks later) car accident while on his way to a pheasant hunt in Dec. 1945- his .410 CHE Parker was, I am sure, back home in the States- You could get brass 12 gauge shells (albiet buckshot loads) in any Allied armory in Europe (or the Pacific) at that time, .410's- not so much. ![]() ![]() Mike[/quote] |
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Although I am reluctant to reply to any of Francis' reckless ramblings, his comment about General Patton's use of a 12 gauge reminded me of something. I recall a pleasant day with fellow Parker guy Kevin McCormack shooting skeet with General Patton's little 30" 20 gauge DHE as part of the preparation for a photo shoot for The Parker Story. This little shooting session took place at Kevin's and my skeet club and Kevin later took the pictures for TPS. The odd thing about this exercise is that neither Kevin nor I seem to have considered that the General probably shot at our club when he lived in Montgomery County Maryland.
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| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post: |
| Aw shucks, Bill- |
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Your timely reply almost makes me wish I had attended Georgia Tech- so you could more accurately call me a "ramblin' wreck". Not an engineer, but passed SMAW all positions to ASTM and API codes and know just enough of metallurgy (both ferrous and non-ferrous metals) to be considered "dangerous". Almost makes me wish I had attended college after HS, instead of enlisting in the USMC, but that's water gone under the bridge.
I also appreciate brother Suponski's "thanks" to your reply. With Pulaski days (or per the syntax in Dave's first rate article covering the North East SxS Classic pages 20-21 and 22)-- maybe that's Pulaski day'?? Fourth graph, near the end-' so that us boy's could--? boy's what- baseball gloves, hockey sticks? the unneeded apostrophe here indicates possive, ditto the last line- These gal's are the best- gal's what- purses, membership cards in the Ladies Aid Society, what? I might have rewritten that as-- "so that we could go out to play- and These gals are the best (and I am sure they are, even women being involved in a man's (ok to use the possessive here Dave) sport is an conundrum to me. I could feel the battery acid breath of Sister Mary Frigidare breathing down my neck in English composition, almost here the 'swishing' of her 15" ruler- aka- "The old knuckle cracker" as she was a stickler for getting it right- every time. As are most bosses in the skilled trades, as we both know. Great article and fotos, almost (but not quite) makes me wish I lived in the Eastern Seaboard and had an interest in breaking clays as you fellows have. Often wondered about those Twists of fate- how the world might have been different if an Austrian Corporal with the Iron cross was killed by an Allied sniper instead of American poet/soldier Joyce Kilmer by a German sniper. How might the outcome of WW11 in the ETO have been if the soldier with the nervous breakdown had not been in that tent in Sicily when Patton visited- General George S. Patton Jr. logged far more hours visiting field hospitals and awarding purple hearts and other decorations for valor in combat than any other American or british field Commander in the entire during of the War in Europe. ![]()
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Dave, my friend, thank you for the recognition of my story. I wish you could have been there, as I wish I could have been at the Meriden reunion. The owner of the little gun is a long time friend of Kevin's and mine, a Patton family member, and an active shooter.
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