Frame Size Variants

[B. Dudley]

This has been all discussed previously on the forum too. Chuck had a lot to offer based on the records in those past discussions.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

This has been all discussed previously on the forum too. Chuck had a lot to offer based on the records in those past discussions.

Can you link those discussion threads here Brian?





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[Bill Murphy]

I am bringing as many of them as I can find to the top so we can read them again. I have found some comments to be incorrect and some to be correct. One thing is universal. No one who claims to have seen a #8 frame gun has measured the pin separation. In my opinion, all 8 marked hammerless guns are #6 frame and all 8 marked hammer guns are #7 frames.

[Pa SxS]

Attached is the entry of a request for a 2 1/2" frame. The stock book entry for this 2 barrel set can barely be read because the ounces is almost unreadable but best I can read is 8 pounds, 4 ounces for 28" barrels and 8 pounds, 7 ounces for the 32" barrels. The requested weight in the order book is 8 pounds 10 ounces. It's a 12 gauge DH.

If the frame size is requested in the order book it's put in the research letter. I've found a way to search for frame size requests in the archived letters. I'll post the S/N of these guns, the requested frame size, and if there is a stock book for these guns, I'll post the weight. It's been a long day so it will give me something to do tomorrow.

[Pa SxS]

Since doing the research letters starting in 2012, I've found 4 letters I've done which had the frame size requested in the order book. This does not include the gun in the previous response. Out of the 4, only 1 had the corresponding stock book entry due to missing stock books. There may be a few more that I've done letters on but the search didn't bring them up.

Question, if a 2 1/2 frame is equivalent to a 3 frame, what is a 2 3/8 frame size equivalent to and is a 1 1/2 frame size equivalent to a size 2 frame?

1. S/N 73175 DH 12/30 Damascus 2 bbl set requested weight 7-12 requested frame size 2 3/8. 1892 gun

2. S/N 81588 DH 12/28 Damascus requested weight 7-10 to 7-12 requested frame size 2 3/8. 1895 gun. Stock Book weight 7-12.

3. S/N 121143 CH 12/30 Titanic requested weight 7 pounds requested frame size 1 1/2. 1903 gun

4. S/N 86073 CH 12/28 Bernard requested weight 7 1/4 pounds requested frame size 1 1/2. 1897 gun