Wads-HELP (What Do I Have)

[Richard Flanders]

Assuming they go into the shell large side down with no card wad over them, I'm wondering if they aren't someone's idea of a crude "spreader" wad. They might be designed to push a bit harder on the center and spread shot a bit to the outside. Or... perhaps that smaller section serves as a bit of a cushion to reduce recoil just a little? That might work with or w/o a card wad over it. Anyone have a better idea? Regardless of what they're designed for, they'd make great kindling for a woodstove or perhaps, soaked in liquid smoke, fuel for a BBQ???.... and, no, I haven't been tipping a bottle....

[OhioC]

I believe years ago, before the advent of the plastic wad, they were used for over over the powder wads because shotgun bores were true to size.
True, they did somewhat self-clean the soot out but you still had to scrub the lead out of the barrel. The invention of plastic pretty much led to their demise.

[Researcher]

I believe years ago, before the advent of the plastic wad, they were used for over over the powder wads because shotgun bores were true to size.

Huh? In my vintage 12-gauge doubles I have bores anywhere from .708" to .757"

[Researcher]

I've been thinking about these wads. In that most 12-gauge loads used a nitro card, and then two fiber wads --

Peters High-Velocity window shell.jpg

I suspect these wads replaced the two fiber wads in the column with the small ends together in the middle making a wad column in cross-section sort of like a short I-beam.

[OhioC]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Huh? In my vintage 12-gauge doubles I have bores anywhere from .708" to .757"

Now you're asking me to rely on my memory from the 70's when I was in my teens? Lol There was no internet so we had to read and rely on the "old" guys for info so I can't be held responsible for what "they" may have told me, lol!

True bore being "nominal" .729 Before choke constrictions came about and I realize there was quit a bit of discrepency. Somewhere along the line we graduated from black powder brass casings to paper casings, then plastic and stuffed cork, over cards, felt, buffer, oatmeal and even toilet paper in shell casings to acheive the proper wad column and buffer the shot to decrease deformation of the lead shot. Yes, I've watched toilet paper fly out of the end of a shotgun barrel from the same guy that loaded .38 specials with a hammer, nail and vise grip. It wasn't me.

Dad never hunted so I remember my first shotgun as being a 3 shot bolt action Mossburg with a poly choke. I don't recall a difference in the pattern no matter where I screwed the choke but I had fun busting clays with it.

[Marty K.]

This bag from a friend's great-grandfather

Turn of the century.....