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Unread 08-09-2016, 04:38 PM   #1
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Since you are reloading yourself have you considered using a roll crimp? A roll crimped 2 9/16th (2 1/2) inch shell has the same interior dimension (capacity) as a 2 3/4 in. folded crimp so you can use any published 2 3/4 inch load data with a slight decrease in chamber pressure. I prefer Unique but there are some nice Green Dot loads that produce moderate chamber pressure and reasonable velocities.
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Since you are reloading yourself have you considered using a roll crimp? A roll crimped 2 9/16th (2 1/2) inch shell has the same interior dimension (capacity) as a 2 3/4 in. folded crimp so you can use any published 2 3/4 inch load data with a slight decrease in chamber pressure. I prefer Unique but there are some nice Green Dot loads that produce moderate chamber pressure and reasonable velocities.
Would I be able to do this with my a size master reloader? I have just realized that I don't really need to be loading 1oz shells, I can just shoots the RST's at the few shots I get at grouse and reload the hulls with a lighter 7/8oz load for clays.

So does anyone have a great 7/8 recipe using unique powder since this is what I already use for my 28 reloads?
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Here is the one ounce load I use. I have loaded some new red Cheddites as well as some purple RST empty hulls. Both work the same. Fold crimp and the one ounce fits easily in there.

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Would I be able to do this with my a size master reloader? I have just realized that I don't really need to be loading 1oz shells, I can just shoots the RST's at the few shots I get at grouse and reload the hulls with a lighter 7/8oz load for clays.

So does anyone have a great 7/8 recipe using unique powder since this is what I already use for my 28 reloads?
John you can so all of the steps on with your sizemaster except crimp start and final crimp. To do the roll crimp you will need a roll crimp head and a drill press or my favorite tool a hand crank Bridgeport Gun Implement tool that show up on e-bay from time to time.

I like 16 grains Unique chamber pressure less than 8000 psi velocity about 1150 fps. Nice soft shooting load for informal clay target shooting or quail/Ruff Grouse size birds.

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These 1 oz loads off the Hodgdon site fit perfectly in a 2 1/2" Win / Ched hull ,if you try and load them in a 2 3/4 " hull the stack height is too low . I use these loads for hunting all the time in my short chambered guns , they perform well .

18-19 grains of Unique will work with the SG16s wad in a straight walled hull also .

For Win/ Ched type hulls - not CF or rem hulls

Hodgdon 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.5 8,800 PSI 1,075
Hodgdon 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.8 9,500 PSI 1,100
Hodgdon 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 14.2 9,800 PSI 1,125
Hodgdon 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 13.5 8,500 PSI 1,075
Hodgdon 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 14.0 9,000 PSI 1,100
Hodgdon 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 14.3 9,300 PSI 1,125
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Here's a couple more that are tested

Fiochi 2 9/16" 1 oz Unique 19 CCI 209 BP Z-16 1146 6880

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Fiochi 2 9/16" 1 oz Unique 20.5 CCI 209 BP Z-16 1220 8020

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I would not be afraid to use these in any straight walled hull they fit in.
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John you can so all of the steps on with your sizemaster except crimp start and final crimp. To do the roll crimp you will need a roll crimp head and a drill press or my favorite tool a hand crank Bridgeport Gun Implement tool that show up on e-bay from time to time.

I like 16 grains Unique chamber pressure less than 8000 psi velocity about 1150 fps. Nice soft shooting load for informal clay target shooting or quail/Ruff Grouse size birds.
Steve is the 16 grains of Unique for the 2 1/2" RST hull with 7/8 oz load or is it for the 1oz load? Thanks
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Steve is the 16 grains of Unique for the 2 1/2" RST hull with 7/8 oz load or is it for the 1oz load? Thanks
This is for a 7/8th ounce load John asked for. I use Winchester 209 primer and Gualandi 1621 wads (I thing Ballistics Products calls them their SG16L). Any of the Gualandi 16 gauge wads will give the same results but may require a filler for a good crimp.
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This is for a 7/8th ounce load John asked for. I use Winchester 209 primer and Gualandi 1621 wads (I thing Ballistics Products calls them their SG16L). Any of the Gualandi 16 gauge wads will give the same results but may require a filler for a good crimp.
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