FWIW and this is only FWIW: I got a very shootable but field worn 16g VH with 28" barrels for $1800 a few months back. So they're out there if you want a gun for the woods. It is on a #1 frame with 28" barrels and handles just beautifully. Actually, it's just awesome and my "rain gun."
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