I am going to hop into this once, and that's it...I have brought these same points up to members of the board and they have been dismissed. Ok so be it, most clubs allow annual members to vote, as Rich says, maybe after ten years who knows but we do need new blood from the annual members, or is this what I said fifteen years ago, are we aspiring to become an "elitist" club.

Ok know I am out of here, said my peace. Eric