20th Annual Spring Southern

[Mills Morrison]

Just got the save the date email for April 25 to 28, 2019. Hard to believe the Spring Southern will be here before you know it and hard to believe we celebrate 20 years!

Mark your calendar and it is never too early to decide what guns you are going to take

https://shoutout.wix.com/so/7cMRlyxfG?cid=256e9620-1831-43d9-89a5-aac16a587b0e#/main

[Sara LeFever]

Already looking forward to it, and counting down the days!! Can't wait!

Sara

[Rich Anderson]

Mills you must be some kind of mind reader as I have been thinking of what to take. It always seems like there are to many taken down but all of them see targets. This year I'm contemplating keeping it to one gauge the question is 20 or 16:)

[Mills Morrison]

The gun taken may yet to be acquired. Looking to add some small bores and early guns

[Eric Eis]

Mills you must be some kind of mind reader as I have been thinking of what to take. It always seems like there are to many taken down but all of them see targets. This year I'm contemplating keeping it to one gauge the question is 20 or 16:)

That will never happen ! :rotf::rotf::rotf: You are going to shoot three flats of shells and only shooting one gauge, nope you can't do it....:rolleyes:

[Brett Hoop]

C.O.B

Don't you dare do that! I'd suggest you check the springs and shocks on the pickup and load her up. Just leave enough room so Opening Day can squeeze a few in. Think of it this way the more you take the less wiping down you'll have to do per gun to remove my paw prints. Truth of the matter is that between the Drake's lot event, and the Ribfest tent city affair at Ernie's is where I saw better guns and learned more than under the big white tents.

[Rich Anderson]

Here's the thing Brett I'll be driving this time as Eric will take his truck to Georgia as Ike will be going Quail hunting with us. The Impala will only hold so much.

At this time my thoughts are 20ga the 32 inch BHE, 30 inch GH Damascus, Boss hammer gun, Gunner's gun. 16ga 32 inch VR GHE, Purdy, 32inch grade 1 hammer gun, 30 inch CHE.

I can live with either of these choices:rotf::rotf:

[Mills Morrison]

And I suppose that, once again, Rich isn't buying any more guns this year

[Rich Anderson]

I'm really trying to quit and have even sold a bunch of rifles. Doing good haven't looked at an internet site in months:whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

I fell off the wagon big time this year. I did just sell one, but now looking to find a replacement for it

[Rich Anderson]

If your seriously considering small bores it can be a slippery and expensive slope:eek: I once considered selling a GHE Damascus 20 with a very nice piece of wood as I haven't used the gun in years but then sanity prevailed as I realized I wouldn't be able to replace it so I decided to keep it. I might even take it Quail hunting in Jan.:whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

I need a 16 on a 0 frame, another or 2 28 gauges and some more 20s. I added a vh 20 with a straight grip this year that I need to get cleaned up.

There was a vh 28 for 2500 at the vintagers that was awful tempting for a few minutes but it had major major problems

All in good time so they say

[Rich Anderson]

Looking is the fun part. Keep an eye on the for sale forum. A member called me about a VHE 28 he is thinking of selling. I have three 28's so I passed.

[Mills Morrison]

Will need to save up some for a 28. I would like to add a 20 with longer barrels and tighter chokes. Just looking for the right one and saving up

[Reggie Bishop]

A member is considering selling a VHE 28? That always gets my attention!!

[Brett Hoop]

I'm really trying to quit and have even sold a bunch of rifles. Doing good haven't looked at an internet site in months:whistle:

That's because all the wolf researchers suck up all the signal in the UP. Worth it to spend a month in Grouse camp. Now we may have to stage an intervention for our buddy Ohio SXS, because he is getting up at 3:30 am to buy Philly Fox guns. I am trying to get him to come to the Southern, because that's what friends are for.

[Rich Anderson]

Will need to save up some for a 28. I would like to add a 20 with longer barrels and tighter chokes. Just looking for the right one and saving up

If I go with the 20 vs the 16 for the Southern you can try out my GH with 30 inch Damascus barrels choked F/F. I bought it from a member here quite some time ago. You can shoot it with confidence as it's not for sale:rotf:

[Rich Anderson]

I have no internet at camp in the U.P. I didn't have TV until this year:eek:

[Kenny Graft]

I am thinking of being there? Do they have camping there or close to the shoots? thanks Kenny

[Mills Morrison]

Not sure about camping.

[Mills Morrison]

Working on planning and things are rocking along. Hope everyone has hotel reservations, hall of fame tickets and is working on a list of guns to bring.

This will be the 16th annual Parker-Smith Challenge and, in honor of that milestone, the challenge pins will be purple like a 16 gauge shell. Here is the proof

[Sara LeFever]

Hope everyone has hotel reservations, hall of fame tickets and is working on a list of guns to bring.

Mills,
I have my hotel reservations, and am very much looking forward to the Southern! Bring on the Spring weather! :)
Sara

[Eric Eis]

Mills,
I have my hotel reservations, and am very much looking forward to the Southern! Bring on the Spring weather! :)
Sara

Sara, you going to have a chance to shoot with us at Drakes Landing Wed or Thursday? It's a fun time

[Sara LeFever]

Sara, you going to have a chance to shoot with us at Drakes Landing Wed or Thursday? It's a fun time

Eric,
Yes, I'm planning on being at Drakes on Thursday. Had a great time last year.
Sara

[jim garrett]

Why go to the Southern if you only plan to shoot 1 gauge? There is an opportunity to shoot 8 different gauges...shoot them all ,.. and then some more!

[Rich Anderson]

I'm only shooting 16's but I'll have 6 or 7 guns with me.

[Dean Freeman]

I mentioned this on another thread, but figured it may be better placed here. I am a newbie to the Southern. One of my concerns is the number of guns I want to bring versus the logistics of getting guns from the car, toting heavy boxes of guns around the grounds, etc. Does anyone have any good advice regarding parking, getting around whilst toting too many guns, and generally making the most of the southern. Also, shooting... how to get some shooting in would be nice. I look forward to meeting many of you. Any help you can give will be welcome.

Kindest regards,
Dean

[Buddy Marson]

I strongly recommend you rent a cart or bring one if you've got it.
Good luck,
Buddy

[Randy G Roberts]

I strongly recommend you rent a cart or bring one if you've got it.
Good luck,
Buddy

Yes, yes, and yes ! Rent or bring a cart especially if you are going to be shooting a lot of events etc as compared to just hanging out in the tents.

[Mills Morrison]

I mentioned this on another thread, but figured it may be better placed here. I am a newbie to the Southern. One of my concerns is the number of guns I want to bring versus the logistics of getting guns from the car, toting heavy boxes of guns around the grounds, etc. Does anyone have any good advice regarding parking, getting around whilst toting too many guns, and generally making the most of the southern. Also, shooting... how to get some shooting in would be nice. I look forward to meeting many of you. Any help you can give will be welcome.

Kindest regards,
Dean

Best thing is to arrive early and park down near the Parker tent.

I hope you can bring your new 20 gauge lifter as our display theme is 20 gauges

[Mark Ray]

I have a room, a cart and am configuring my Safari cast to carry broken down shotguns.

[Rich Anderson]

All 16's this trip and I've got it down to 6-7 guns. The candidates are Parker GHE 32in vent rib, 32 inch grade 1 hammer gun, GHE Damascus skeet configured, CHE 30 inch, LeFever Optimus, Purdey and maybe something else.

Looking forward to doing lots of shooting, enjoying some much warmer weather and looking at all the fine guns....but just looking:whistle:

[Eric Eis]

All 16's this trip and I've got it down to 6-7 guns. The candidates are Parker GHE 32in vent rib, 32 inch grade 1 hammer gun, GHE Damascus skeet configured, CHE 30 inch, LeFever Optimus, Purdey and maybe something else.

Looking forward to doing lots of shooting, enjoying some much warmer weather and looking at all the fine guns....but just looking:whistle:

The gun count is going up....for you Rich! :rotf:

[Rich Anderson]

The trunk isn't packed yet and I do need to provide room for the gun/guns I'm going to try to find new homes for.

[Eric Eis]

Remember we have to fit in a Dog Box too..... and oh by the way my guns and shells...............

[Randy G Roberts]

Rich that GHE 16 of yours sure would look nice sitting next to his twin little Brother in a 20 gauge, just sayin :)

[Brett Hoop]

Opening Day

You mean you won’t hold the pup on your lap?:rotf:

[Rich Anderson]

Rich that GHE 16 of yours sure would look nice sitting next to his twin little Brother in a 20 gauge, just sayin :)

Randy you can make it happen:)

[Reggie Bishop]

Randy that sure is a nice vent rib 20. I am a 20 guy!

[Rich Anderson]

Vent rib guns are special. Last year at the Southern I found a VHE 20 skeet gun with a factory vent rib. My first high condition gun was a 30 inch DHE 20 with a rib. That was 20 years ago and I still shoot it.

[Bill Murphy]

I am a vent rib guy, but I don't have anything like those guns. Congratulations.

[Eric Eis]

Opening Day

You mean you won’t hold the pup on your lap?:rotf:

It's a GSP...:rolleyes:

[Mills Morrison]

I could not do a long car trip with my brittany in the car and not in a crate

[Randy G Roberts]

I'm going to bring it to the Southern. Shot some skeet with it last Tuesday. It's pretty tight. Looked really good on some stations, not so good on others. It's a nice gun for sure. You have all probably seen it, you just don't recall where ?????:corn:

[Rich Anderson]

The Hollywood gun is a 16 two barrel vent rib set also but it won't be making the trip but the 32 inch VR 16 will be there ready to crush targets with it's F/F chokes. Randy if you want to take her for a dance on the 5 stand your more than welcome to do so.
Randy whats the barrel length on your 20??

Mills Duke "the pup" will definitely be in a crate.

[Randy G Roberts]

Randy if you want to take her for a dance on the 5 stand your more than welcome to do so.
Randy whats the barrel length on your 20??


Rich I'm surprised you had to ask :) Like I said it's a twin to your gun, 32".

[Rich Anderson]

Just making sure as I sold one a few years ago that looks similar to your gun. Boy was that ever stupid:banghead::banghead:

[Randy G Roberts]

For those of you in possession of those new fancy smancy name badges please wear them for a proper meet and greet, or possibly retreat :) Safe travels !

[Sara LeFever]

For those of you in possession of those new fancy smancy name badges please wear them for a proper meet and greet, or possibly retreat :) Safe travels !

I won’t have a name tag, but I’ll be at Drakes on Thursday, and at the Southern on Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to it and seeing everyone!

Sara

[Randy G Roberts]

No worries Sara, I have a Sharpie . See you there..

[Reggie Bishop]

I will be there Saturday only. Hope to meet more of you folks this year!

[Mills Morrison]

Another fun Southern is in progress with lots of shooting lots of guns and gear changing hands and, best of all, lots of fellowship with friends old and new.

[Bill Murphy]

I thought I was through shopping for Parkers after almost 60 years of doing that. However, after reading this thread, I guess it's time to go shopping again.

[Mills Morrison]

Team Parker wins!

[Dean Romig]

Yaaaaaaay!!





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[Mills Morrison]

And details. . . .

235 Parker to 229 Smith. Another nail biter as it should be and both teams were in top form

Top gun John Truitt
Runner up David Defernelmont Sr
3rd Sterling Durham
4th Adam Pickett

Oscar Gaddy - Danny Patton

Top lady - Sarah Spartz
2nd lady- Annie Jardin
Top youth - Sawyer Banks
2nd youth - Sarah Spartz

[Dean Romig]

Thanks for all your hard work on the Challenge event Mills!





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[Randy G Roberts]

[QUOTE=Dean Romig;272497]Thanks for all your hard work on the Challenge event Mills

Yep, thanks....

[Jim DiSpagno]

A BIG THANKS to you Mills and all those who worked so hard.

[Randy G Roberts]

Thanks to Michael Moffa also who was there with camera in hand. He almost made the HOF dinner as well, only missed it by 24 hours :)

[Mills Morrison]

Results

This will look more professional when I get back to civilization and am not reliant on my cell phone

[Mills Morrison]

Thank you all for the compliments but the truth is a lot of folks chipped in to make the event a success

[Mills Morrison]

Also thanks to everyone for making PGCA mascot, my son Mills, feel so welcome

[John Davis]

Great job Mills. And I hope Mills, Jr. had a good time. Looked like he was having fun. John

[Mills Morrison]

He was having fun and still is

[Mike Franzen]

The Southern was a great time. If you have never been you are missing one of great, classic events in the vintage gun world. There will be another great event at Hausman’s in September when the PGCA holds it’s annual meeting and awards banquet.

[Dean Romig]

The Southern was a great time. If you have never been you are missing one of great, classic events in the vintage gun world. There will be another great event at Hausman’s in September when the PGCA holds it’s annual meeting and awards banquet.


And there will also be a great sxs event at Hausmann's in the first week of June.



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[Randy G Roberts]

I just got back to my room in Sanford after watching the Muzzleloader event. My eyes are still watering. Those boys put a lot of smoke in the air. It was a great weekend and I agree that if you have not done this before you need to make the trip. I have lost count of how many PGCA members that I met over the weekend. Had the chance to shoot a round with Bruce Day which was fun. Spent a good deal of time chatting with a lot of good Parker aficianados. One of my best Southerns and I never bought a gun. The name badges work great. Time to start planning for next year. Thanks to everyone for your generosity.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

The youth shoot was a great success this year had 11 shooters in all age groups, maybe some photos will be forthcoming from some that were snapping photos, Gary

[Mills Morrison]

Congratulations to L C Smith for their victory in the hammer gun challenge!

[Reggie Bishop]

My time at the Southern was short but very enjoyable. What a pleasure it was meeting Bruce Day, Chuck Bishop, Bob Hayes, Mike McKinney , Randy Roberts, Brian Hornacek, and probably someone I have forgotten. What a great display of 20 gauge guns including Gary C's hammer 20s!

[Mark Ray]

We had a great time at our first Southern. All the folks were super nice! Shot the 80 Round main event today with my custom stom Sterly 16. Very schizo...cleaned 7 stations, including the difficult 4 pair last station....but also had two 1’s, and two 3’s. Im pretty sure it was the guns fault.

Got a 20 piece galazan turnscrew set for $30, and a few other “doo-dads”. Almost made it out relatively unscathed, until a pristine LC Smith .410, and a Flues 28, decided they needed to follow me home.

Enjoyed meeting and putting names with faces many regulars here in the forum. Thanks to all for fielding my naive questions!!

We really enjoyed the HOF dinner.

[Reggie Bishop]

I looked at a grade 4 Ithaca Flues 28, Mark. But I left it on the table. I saw several Parkers that I liked but I didn’t buy anything.

[Mark Ray]

I think I saw that gun too...it was nice...almost went in on a VH 20 straight stocked gun that was not monkeyed with...the little ithaca I bought is a field grade, 26” gun that weighs a hefty 4lbs 8oz. Very honest gun, aroung 80% overall, tight with nice bores. The Elsie .410 is 95% plus, 3” gun with 26” barrels, and dual bead raised solid rib. The only detractor at all is some checking on the shellac on the butt. Also looked at a very nifty 32” VHE no safety pigeon gun.

All in all had a great time, including the “pig picking” last night, featuring a really cool little blue grass band.

[Ed Blake]

Can someone post the 10, 16, and 20 gauge results? Thanks

[Randy G Roberts]

Mark your BIGGEST find was most likely a very special ring, maybe I should call it a recovery. Lucky couple. Glad it worked out. Good meeting you.

[Bob Hayes]

This year was really a great weekend.Enjoyed meeting many of you this year and the dinner Friday night.The whole evening was extremely enjoyable.Name badges were awesome what a difference it made.
Shooting at Drakes was fun and will definitely do that again and join the fun at Deep River next year.I realized one thing that it's harder to make a purchase while toting a gun around shooting clays.

[Bill Murphy]

Ed, yesterday, Bill Kemfler had all the scores posted on his website. The main event should be posted today.

[Harry Collins]

https://www.southernsidebyside.com

[Michael Moffa]

Team looking at the birds before the Challenge

[Michael Moffa]

Squad 1, I don't know their names so if somebody can identify them that would be great.

[Michael Moffa]

Squad 2, same deal if you can identify that would be great.

[Michael Moffa]

Team 1 individual members shooting.

[Michael Moffa]

Team one, the shooters pictured are granted a copyright license to download these images for their personal use. If you would like a higher resolution (15 to 19 meg) then email me at mike.moffa@freedmanseating.com and I will send to you. Please put PGCA Competitor in the subject line and the color of your shirt, so you get the correct pic.

[Michael Moffa]

Team 2 members individual shots, same as above send me email with info to send back big res images.

[Michael Moffa]

I was so tempted to steal this case and everything in it. Thanks for bringing them out for us to enjoy.

[Michael Moffa]

The two sides of the coin for the coin toss. I like the Parker side best.

[Michael Moffa]

Got wood?

[Mills Morrison]

Can someone post the 10, 16, and 20 gauge results? Thanks

Team LC won the 16 Gauge and 10-bore Team events; but lost the 20-bore event. Apparently a Parker shooter and an LC Smith shooter each got a perfect 30/30 in the 16 gauge event which is amazing. These events are not official PGCA/LCSCA events, but not sure who was in charge so I am posting

[Michael Moffa]

Really nice display and youth gun.

[Michael Moffa]

The usual suspects.

[Michael Moffa]

Winner of the Youth Gun.

[Michael Moffa]

Mills times two!

[Michael Moffa]

The other guys.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Michael, Thanks for the great photos, A good time had by all, Gary

[Michael Moffa]

Clay's view of the field.

[Michael Moffa]

Bought a case from these two for special snowflakes college graduation present.

[Mills Morrison]

PGCA long time member Jim Garrett donated hand engraved knives as prizes for high guns this year. Thanks Jim!

[Michael Moffa]

Corner of the event tent.

[Michael Moffa]

A little hammer smoke!

[Mills Morrison]

Here are a few photos too.

PGCA 20 gauge display
Member Mark Godley and wife Nancy
Mike Smith shoots the qualifier
Randy Roberts and Brian Hornacek
New Team Parker member Stanley Hoover
Sterling Durham of Team Parker
Chuck Devinne smashes one for Team Parker
John Truitt in high form
New Team Parker member Mike Peed
Mike Koneski in Hammer gun challenge

[Mills Morrison]

Good time had by all

5 stand field
Danny Patton wins the Oscar Gaddy award
Fred Verry in Hammer gun event
Mike Harris
20 gauge Parkers
High Youth Sawyer Banks
Jimmy Hall, Mike Harris and Mike McKinney
Dave Fjelline
Danny Patton

[Buddy Marson]

Mills, could you post the winners names and scores of this event? Thanks.
Buddy

[Mills Morrison]

I did not get much information on the 20/16/10 events

[Mills Morrison]

Back L-R : Chuck Devinne, Barry Zuckerman, Mike Koneski, Bryan Brady, Mike Peed, Randy Roberts, Stanley Hoover

Front L-R : Mark Prudhomme, Sterling Durham, John Truitt

[Michael Moffa]

For those members who have never seen The Gaddy Award.

[Michael Moffa]

The kids who shot the youth shoot.

[Michael Moffa]

Second squad of youths.

[Michael Moffa]

3rd squad of youths.

[Michael Moffa]

All the shooters for the Challenge, Team Parker and Team Smith.

[Mills Morrison]

George Purtill's son was our alternate and also our spotter during the shoot off.

[Michael Moffa]

Mills accepting a trophy.

[Mills Morrison]

Special thanks to those who contributed to the Parker display this year. I apologize in advance if I left anyone out:

Bruce Day, Gary Carmichael, Jimmy Hall, Daryl Corona, Brian Dudley, Mark Ray, Jerry Harlow, Ed Morgan, and Dean Freeman :bigbye:

[Randy G Roberts]

Already said it once but thanks again to Michael and Mills for their efforts. It takes time, your time, to take all of those pics as well as editing and posting. Your time is valuable and "we" really do appreciate it. Thanks !!

[Michael Moffa]

Randy, thanks for the kind words.

[Mills Morrison]

Thanks Randy!

[George M. Purtill]

George Purtill's son was our alternate and also our spotter during the shoot off.

Thanks Mills
He was proud to wear the red hat.
Henry shot a 34 and our lowest team shooter was a 35. He shoots way better than his father.
He now shoots a flamethrower built by Dave Fjelline. It is a hammer gun with 32 inch steel barrels. The parts were gathered by myself with location services provided by our own Jim DiSpagno.
The hammer gun receiver was a grade 0 top lever. It sports more engraving now courtesy of Noelle.
The steel barrels and fore-end came from a VH.
Both of the donor guns were pretty much junk.
It has Briley thin wall chokes and is back bored.
Dave provided and carved the butt stock.
He shoots skeet and skeet tubes all the time.
Go figure. But he is a 29 year old former lacrosse goalie who makes quick decisions on flying objects.
I will post pictures if he lets me touch the gun again.

[Dean Romig]

Sounds like quite the hammer gun. I should presume it’s a 12 gauge?


.Those LaX goalies (the good ones) are incredible! What reflexes!
My grandson Cam is a LaX defenseman. His Dad is a professional LaX ref and coach.





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[George M. Purtill]

Sounds like quite the hammer gun. I should presume it’s a 12 gauge.

Yes sorry it is a 12 gauge. It can shoot any 2-3/4 inch load you stick in it.

[Mark Ray]

Thanks Mills
He was proud to wear the red hat.
Henry shot a 34 and our lowest team shooter was a 35. He shoots way better than his father.
He now shoots a flamethrower built by Dave Fjelline. It is a hammer gun with 32 inch steel barrels. The parts were gathered by myself with location services provided by our own Jim DiSpagno.
The hammer gun receiver was a grade 0 top lever. It sports more engraving now courtesy of Noelle.
The steel barrels and fore-end came from a VH.
Both of the donor guns were pretty much junk.
It has Briley thin wall chokes and is back bored.
Dave provided and carved the butt stock.
He shoots skeet and skeet tubes all the time.
Go figure. But he is a 29 year old former lacrosse goalie who makes quick decisions on flying objects.
I will post pictures if he lets me touch the gun again.



I was noticing that gun during the shoot. Sounds like a winner!

[Bill Murphy]

George, can you tell us the specifics of installing hammerless barrels on a hammer gun? Is there someone who can handle the whole conversion?

[Rich Anderson]

The late Russ Bickel did it. Brad Batchelder has also done it I believe.

[Mike Koneski]

Can someone post the 10, 16, and 20 gauge results? Thanks

Ed, Team Parker won the 20g Challenge. Team LCS won the 10g and 16g.

[Mike Koneski]

Squad 1, I don't know their names so if somebody can identify them that would be great.

Mike Koneski ready to shoot in cage 1, cage 2 ?, cage 3 Duke Durham, cage 4 Stanley Hoover, cage 5 ?

[Mike Koneski]

Anyone know the name of the young man that won the Parker gun??