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Unread 12-31-2018, 12:04 PM   #1
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If you don't put your shot on the bird, perhaps you are correct in choosing a different gun.
That said, no pellet size, ounces of shot, gauge, or distance from the muzzles will help you if you don’t put your shot on the bird.






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That said, no pellet size, ounces of shot, gauge, or distance from the muzzles will help you if you don’t put your shot on the bird.






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You got it Dean.

Karl, I would'nt use that choke combination on wild pheasants period. Quail, woodcock and grouse it would be perfect. I've bagged a boatload of wild SD pheasants over some very good dogs and I shoot 20's and 28's. You need choke, the more the better. For a 20 I suggest a minimum of .020 in the right barrel and .027-.030 in the left. I'm not a fan of 5's as I use 7.5's with a lot of choke. They are usually shot in the open giving you plenty of time to focus and swing to the front end of the bird. That's the only reliable way to kill and not cripple. Keep your shots to under 40yds. and you should do fine. Good luck.
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I have a 16 ga. Parker with both barrels at Cyl and it breaks clays effectively out to 40+ yards but I would never attempt to bring a pheasant down with it even at 25-30 yards.
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Choke debates are virtually endless. But ALL of my Cyl. & Cyl. 12 bores perform as well as Dean's 16 on ANY sporting clays target. So much so, that I don't even consider choke when I pick a gun for a day's outing.

The same goes for my 16-bores or 20s. They will ALL break a target with 3/4 oz. loads out to about 50 yds. or so as long as I'm "on" with my lead, etc.

What's more, I also use the same Cyl. & Cyl. guns with 1 oz. loads to great effect on preserve pheasant at just short of the same distances. After all, what choice did shooters have before choke was invented?
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I would rather err on the side of too tight, when it comes to chokes, especially when it comes to a 20 ga. on pheasants.
Besides the extra yardage thing, I would prefer a clean miss with a tight choke over a single pellet fringe hit with an open choke.
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I just bought a VH 20 that letters as having 28" Cyl & Mod. I measured the barrels and the bores are both .617 The right barrel has a 3 1/4" long choke and has .004 choke nearly to the end of the barrel then goes to cylinder bore. The left barrel has .015 choke.

I'm headed to Kansas pheasant hunting this week and don't have the time to pattern it before I go so what is your experience with the performance of a 20 ga cylinder bore choked gun ?

I will be shooting RST 7/8 oz #5's and just curious what to expect from the right barrel.

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Growing up, one of my Dad’s pals and hunting buddies hunted everything he hunted with one gun. It was a Iver Johson Cycle Works single shot 20 gauge with modified choke. He killed the crap out of wild Pheasants in the Texas panhandle with that gun. Just shoot the left barrel, pretend you are shooting a single shot, and you will be fine. I agree with most everyone here, that a far flushing wild bird is not for that cyl. bore, but modified sure is.
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