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john one things for sure..the big bores handle large shot better what i mean is they pattern large shot such as 2s bbs and bigger better than the small bores...if i can find it onefellow does much hunting and patterningf with the 4 and 8 ga.... gives a lot of detail info but dont think he gives anyinfo on the cokes of the big guns...ive done a lot of patterning and pentration tests myself with these guns....they are capable of some really long range shots.... charlie
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