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Unread 05-20-2024, 12:44 PM   #1
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I've been posting this information for at least three decades --

"In the book The Parker Story the Remington vintage specification sheets on pages 164 to 169 call for a chamber 1/8-inch shorter than the shell for which it is intended. Also, in the 1930's there were a couple of articles in The American Rifleman (July 1936 and March 1938) on the virtue of short chambers. A series by Sherman Bell in The Double Gun Journal showed no significant increase in pressure from shooting shells in slightly short chambers. .....

Also, Askins mentions (Modern Shotguns and Loads, 1929) that for the last 3 years or so the US makers started to hold their chambers shorter since the constriction made when shooting 2-3/4" loads in 2-5/8" chambers was found to improve patterning."
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I've been posting this information for at least three decades --

"In the book The Parker Story the Remington vintage specification sheets on pages 164 to 169 call for a chamber 1/8-inch shorter than the shell for which it is intended. Also, in the 1930's there were a couple of articles in The American Rifleman (July 1936 and March 1938) on the virtue of short chambers. A series by Sherman Bell in The Double Gun Journal showed no significant increase in pressure from shooting shells in slightly short chambers. .....

Also, Askins mentions (Modern Shotguns and Loads, 1929) that for the last 3 years or so the US makers started to hold their chambers shorter since the constriction made when shooting 2-3/4" loads in 2-5/8" chambers was found to improve patterning."
Until yesterday I had never found the articles to read for myself, I thought others would find them interesting.
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Give me a direct link to the articles you reference and I will read them and comment. Curtis is one of few authors in the early days that didn't rely on "old wive's tales" to sell articles.
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Give me a direct link to the articles you reference and I will read them and comment. Curtis is one of few authors in the early days that didn't rely on "old wive's tales" to sell articles.
Bill it requires a little work to read them but it's fairly easy. Click on the link in my first post (posted again below), then click the year for the magazine, then click on the month of the magazine and it will open. Then you have to go to the page it's on which is in the index of the magazine.

https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.ed...Wq1WBiaFhpps7M
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If Bill can figure that out he would prove he could figure out how to post pictures
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If Bill can figure that out he would prove he could figure out how to post pictures
Damn you beat me to it But I prefer to believe the one in question doesn’t want to post pictures period .
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Direct link to the article
https://archive.org/details/sim_amer...ge/20/mode/2up

Scroll down about 1/3 here for more information, including a 1897 study & Charles Askins quoting W.A. King.
The issue seems to have been "overlap"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...vwLYc-kGA/edit

(All you have to do is L click your mouse thingie on the link Bill )
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