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Destry is correct. The KTM is the best of the non tox in my opinion and works well on waterfowl. The loads are heavy and not for lightweight wispy guns. The ones I've used are equivalent to the old 3-3/4dram, 1-1/4oz lead loads and feel pretty stout. I only use them in my 2-frame guns.
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