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Unread 01-20-2014, 02:29 PM   #1
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Allowing tube sets would enable more shooters to become involved with sub gauge shooting. A Parker 28 or .410 is beyond the budget of many folks.
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Keep em coming guys. This is the kind of talk I was hoping for.

NO reason to apologize Mr Dwyer. I have yet to establish an opinion.
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I have shot many small gauge nsca events with sub gauge tubes until my lovely wife gave me a k-20 3gauge set for x mas, I think i will keep her! Nsca events are fun but in my opinion it's more about winning. The few side by side shoots i have shot was more about the enjoying vintage guns and like minded people. If you want to shoot small gauge guns at these events and can't afford an vintage small gage gun you can shoot a modern s x s and still enjoy shooting these events with out spending a bunch of money. It is my opinion the vintage gun events should be shot with guns as they were originally chambered.
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Thanks for expressing the vast majority of our feelings. I have shot a few NSCA events and it is ALL about moving up in class and winning, period. The SXS events is ALL about enjoying yourself with friends and shared interests. I have seen one of our "top guns" shoot a wining score and then not turn in his card because he felt he had won enough events. I fell that is what we are about:not just winning but also helping your friends also enjoy the shoot.
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Keeping things the way they are promotes interest in guns, gun collecting, and gun trading. Allowing tubes in vintage gun competition will run the present competitors out of the game. Tubed competition style guns are an unfair advantage.
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how about a gun that has been permanently rechambered down one gauge.
(IE: 10 bore rechambered permanently to a 12)
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how about a gun that has been permanently rechambered down one gauge.
(IE: 10 bore rechambered permanently to a 12)
I say NO. We collect, shoot, compete, and hunt with vintage guns. A rechambered gun is not acceptable in a gauge specific competition. Hey, is it a 10 gauge because if left the factory as that or a 12 gauge because someone butchered a fine 10 gauge?

Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?
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As a way of resurrecting a gun that otherwise would not be usable.

I personally understand the concerns with tube sets but I don't see why rechambering a gun, to resurrect it, should be an issue. That should be no unfair advantage to any shooter.
IMO by doing so you have just reintroduced a gun to the world, stimulated the economy by paying for the work ( I think I am saying this correctly)
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Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?[/QUOTE]

I don't understand this comment Mark?
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Why not allow any gauge so long as the shot payload is the same?
I don't understand this comment Mark?[/QUOTE]

The comment was sarcastic.

An ounce and an eighth of shot is the same no matter the bore size. Isn't that correct? Not always.

I shoot a lot of 10 gauges at the SxS events. If one can move a big gun the larger bore can be very forgiving. To prepare for those shoots I spend much time handloading those big shells one at a time. I take pride in my work. Oh, the WalMart special promotional 12 gauge shells shoot better in my 10 (with Gauge Mate adapters) than they do in a 12 but I reframe from that in vintage shoots.

If the rules for a 10 gauge shoot allowed any Tom, Dick, or Harry to compete using a borrowed gun and 12 gauge AA's they bough at WalMart then why would I bother to enter? Something about the "vintage" of the shoot would be lost.

But then why are Parker Reproduction guns not allowed in competition? Would allowing those take something from the collectors who mortgaged the farm to buy a vintage 28 gauge Parker. Yup, probably so.

I could go on with why not old pumps and pre-war Auto 5's? I like them all but...

Vintage is vintage. Let's keep it that way.

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