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todd allen 03-24-2026 08:49 PM

My mentor in the game was John Sands.
My introduction to pigeons, and lifelong friend was PGCA member Chuck Altenburg.

John Davis 03-25-2026 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 446600)
He uses the same boxes he uses for pigeons . If my memory serves it nine boxes John . Are you by chance contemplating a ring at the “Davis Sportsman’s Club” ?

Always contemplating. Quail would be much easier to acquire than pigeons. And I have the box traps I got from Murphy several years ago. What’s the rise? 18 yards? 30 yards?

CraigThompson 03-26-2026 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 446609)
Always contemplating. Quail would be much easier to acquire than pigeons. And I have the box traps I got from Murphy several years ago. What’s the rise? 18 yards? 30 yards?

Where I shoot we start at 32 yards after three straight step back a yard .

CraigThompson 03-26-2026 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by todd allen (Post 446601)
The better you shoot, the cheaper the shooting.
What I've seen, is if you can maintain a 26-28/30 average, your shooting costs are very low.
BTW, the formula that we strived for, begins with an 85% first barrel kill rate. 90% is better.
And always play the money, because learning to shoot for money is part of the practice.
You have two jobs. Train with your gun, and then train your mind.
Winning shoots requires an incredible mental game.
I have been trained and coached by some incredible people, and should probably write a book.

I’d love to go to Madrid for the Kings Cup once just so I could say I had and had shot there . I’ve never done a shoot that was thirty birds box or Colombaire it’s always been 15 or 20 .

Bill Burwash 03-26-2026 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 446683)
I’d love to go to Madrid for the Kings Cup once just so I could say I had and had shot there . I’ve never done a shoot that was thirty birds box or Colombaire it’s always been 15 or 20 .

Sure sounds like fun.
You are right on about the mental game when shooting. Years ago I shot serious skeet competition and you can't win without really a really good mental game. I can assure you I was nervous when shooting the US Open many years ago

John Davis 03-26-2026 04:01 PM

I have found in trap that once you have the basics down and your fundamentals are solid, then it’s 99% mental.

Daryl Corona 03-26-2026 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 446689)
I have found in trap that once you have the basics down and your fundamentals are solid, then it’s 99% mental.

It's like that in any sport John.

CraigThompson 03-31-2026 03:00 PM

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This past Saturday was the boxbird quail shoot think there were 18 or 19 shooters twenty birds each shooter . These were some of the strongest flying quail I’ve encountered in the ring . So out of four races per man there was only one 5 straight . Lots and lots of birds knocked down that fell just outside . I brought home a decent pile of quail for the table . John I meant to take some pictures of the boxes for you but it slipped my mind . There’s talk of another before the Southern if so I’ll try and take a few pictures for you .

Bill Burwash 03-31-2026 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 446879)
This past Saturday was the boxbird quail shoot think there were 18 or 19 shooters twenty birds each shooter . These were some of the strongest flying quail I’ve encountered in the ring . So out of four races per man there was only one 5 straight . Lots and lots of birds knocked down that fell just outside . I brought home a decent pile of quail for the table . John I meant to take some pictures of the boxes for you but it slipped my mind . There’s talk of another before the Southern if so I’ll try and take a few pictures for you .

Sounds like a fun day. Maybe a full choke should be used? Thanks for the update.

John Davis 03-31-2026 03:35 PM

I think I recognize that dog.


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