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Unread 03-24-2026, 07:39 PM   #1
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Bear in mind when I say big boxbird shoots are 3k a day that’s if you play all the gambling options . Generally (I think) you can get in the race and main prize money for 1k or less and the rest is optional gambling on yourself .
The better you shoot, the cheaper the shooting.
What I've seen, is if you can maintain a 26-28/30 average, your shooting costs are very low.
BTW, the formula that we strived for, begins with an 85% first barrel kill rate. 90% is better.
And always play the money, because learning to shoot for money is part of the practice.
You have two jobs. Train with your gun, and then train your mind.
Winning shoots requires an incredible mental game.
I have been trained and coached by some incredible people, and should probably write a book.
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You're correct Todd, playing the money is the only way to learn. I was fortunate to be helped and tutored by one of the best, Charlie Miller. One of the best I ever saw shoot live birds.
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The better you shoot, the cheaper the shooting.
What I've seen, is if you can maintain a 26-28/30 average, your shooting costs are very low.
BTW, the formula that we strived for, begins with an 85% first barrel kill rate. 90% is better.
And always play the money, because learning to shoot for money is part of the practice.
You have two jobs. Train with your gun, and then train your mind.
Winning shoots requires an incredible mental game.
I have been trained and coached by some incredible people, and should probably write a book.
I’d love to go to Madrid for the Kings Cup once just so I could say I had and had shot there . I’ve never done a shoot that was thirty birds box or Colombaire it’s always been 15 or 20 .
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I’d love to go to Madrid for the Kings Cup once just so I could say I had and had shot there . I’ve never done a shoot that was thirty birds box or Colombaire it’s always been 15 or 20 .
Sure sounds like fun.
You are right on about the mental game when shooting. Years ago I shot serious skeet competition and you can't win without really a really good mental game. I can assure you I was nervous when shooting the US Open many years ago
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I have found in trap that once you have the basics down and your fundamentals are solid, then it’s 99% mental.
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