PARKER BHE TRAP GUN OR LIVE PIGEON GUN?

[Double Lab]

I preferred 28" for Columbaire and 30" for box birds for the simple reason I could move them quicker to the bird.

[Bill Burwash]

Originally Posted by John Davis

Manitoba was part of DuBray’s territory. You’ll find in Parkers in Pulp where he made a number of business trips there and enjoyed the hunting as well. No doubt the order was placed on one of those visits.

Thanks. Very interesting. DuBray sure covered a lot of territory. Winnipeg was a small town back in the 1900's and I can't image he sold many Parkers.

[todd allen]

Originally Posted by Bill Burwash

The Parker letter states that my BHE was started in Nov 1905 and completed in Feb 1906. It has 32" steel barrels with 2 3/4" chambers, F&X chokes, double triggers, ejectors, no safety, Monte Carlo comb with straight English style grip, checkered butt and weighs 7 lbs 11 oz. More details are given in the companion thread titled Parker BHE Engraving Styles.
My question is whether this gun was intended for live pigeons or clay (trap) shooting. I look forward to your comments.

I would really love to see some pictures of this one.

[Drew Hause]

Apparently more interested in golf & curling
https://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/people/pitblado_i.shtml

No hits in the Sporting Life archives which reported major Canadian trap shoots.

He was friends with Dan Bain, who won the The Dominion of Canada Trap Shooting Championship in Toronto in 1903

Live Pigeon competitions became much less popular in Great Britain and Canada after the 1900 Paris Olympic Games, but I couldn't find a date when they were outlawed by legislation.

[Bill Burwash]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

Apparently more interested in golf & curling
https://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/people/pitblado_i.shtml

No hits in the Sporting Life archives which reported major Canadian trap shoots.

He was friends with Dan Bain, who won the The Dominion of Canada Trap Shooting Championship in Toronto in 1903

Live Pigeon competitions became much less popular in Great Britain and Canada after the 1900 Paris Olympic Games, but I couldn't find a date when they were outlawed by legislation.

Thanks, Drew. Looks like Mr Pitbaldo was associated with trap shooting to some extent.

[Bill Burwash]

Originally Posted by todd allen

I would really love to see some pictures of this one.

There are a number of pic and a long interesting discussion on this gun in a companion thread titled Parker BHE Engraving Patterns. The thread is about 6 down from this thread.

[Bill Burwash]

Interesting that there is still a number of pigeon shooters in this modern day and shooting vintage guns. Congratulations.
My pigeon shooting has been confined to the barnyard type. Except for 3 trips to Argentina for doves and pigeons. Back then you were limited to 200 pigeons per person per day---that has been reduced in the past few years to 100 or maybe less. There was no limit on doves. I rented guns from the outfitter as bring guns from Canada to Argentina in a pain.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Bill Burwash

Interesting that there is still a number of pigeon shooters in this modern day and shooting vintage guns. Congratulations.
My pigeon shooting has been confined to the barnyard type. Except for 3 trips to Argentina for doves and pigeons. Back then you were limited to 200 pigeons per person per day---that has been reduced in the past few years to 100 or maybe less. There was no limit on doves. I rented guns from the outfitter as bring guns from Canada to Argentina in a pain.

Nothing wrong with shooting pigeons in the barnyard ! In Argentina in my one trip I enjoyed shooting the pigeons more than the dove . But when I comes to shotgun shooting games hands down I’ll take Colombaire first boxbirds second over any of the clay target games .

[Bill Burwash]

All of my shooting partners in Argentina preferred pigeons over doves as well.
I've never had the opportunity to shoot competitive pigeons. But have shot a ton of clay targets.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Bill Burwash

All of my shooting partners in Argentina preferred pigeons over doves as well.
I've never had the opportunity to shoot competitive pigeons. But have shot a ton of clay targets.

Forty years ago I wanted to get an invitation to one of the decent sized box bird shoots . At that time you needed to know someone to get an invite . Anyway the people I knew that did it told me I’d be broke in a year shooting pigeons competitively so I didn’t get to try it until perhaps six years ago . And yeah I now u der stand what they meant about entry fees at the larger boxbird shoots or Colombaire for that matter . The place I normally do this is typically no more than $400 a day for 15 birds . Where as a big boxbird shoot in PA or GA or TX might set you back $3k a day if you play all the options .