Diminutive 16-bore

[edgarspencer]

I'm assuming someone may draw a conclusion from all these numbers, but don't count me in that crowd, as I'm no less enlightened after looking at my 16s
My 0 frame VH 16,with 28" bbls, has an unstruck weight of 3/1, and my 1 frame VH 16, with 26" pipes has an unstruck weight of 3/7. My DHE 16 with 28" bbls weighs in at 3/4, so where the extra 3 ounces is hidden leads me to believe that Ejector fore ends weigh more than extractor fore ends. It's logical to assume that the smaller bore, for a given frame and barrel length would be heavier, so I checked a 28" VH 20, and it was 3/8. OK, comparing like for like, the 20 comes in an ounce heavier that the 16. So why are the 1 frame barrels (28") WITH ejectors on the DHE 3 ounces lighter than the 1 frame VH16 (26") ?
It was always my understanding that the stamped weight was the unstruck barrel WITH the fore end, and at some point, when I had access to a digital scale, I confirmed this, but I've never weighed fore ends by themselves.
I DO know one thing, (two if remembering where I live counts) The 28" DHE is a tad more forgiving on my shoulder after 100 rounds of clays, than the lighter 28" VH, but lugging the VH all day in the woods, and maybe getting off a dozen shots, is more forgiving on the rest of my body.

[Autumn Daze]

Edgar, For the sake of clarification. The unstuck barrel weight that is stamped on the barrel assembley is without the forend.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Edgar, For the sake of clarification. The unstuck barrel weight that is stamped on the barrel assembley is without the forend.

That makes sense to me, Dave, however, when it was explained to me by a pretty reputable Parker expert, it also made sense. I believe the final striking was just before cold rust bluing, with ribs soldered and fitted to the gun, which would have had to include the fore end. I have weighed finished barrels with the fore end attached, and in most cases, they were about One ounce less than the stamped weight. It is highly unlikely they removed the weight of the fore end plus one once in final striking.

[Autumn Daze]

Edgar,Years ago I subscribed to this theory also but since then I have learned differently. Please take a look at page 427 in TPS. I shows an unfinished set of barrels with the weight stamp already impressed in the assembly. I have had a similar set here and that set wasn't chambered yet. I really believe the barrel weight stamp was for internal use to help the fitters chose a set of barrels that would compliment the final desired weight of a finished gun.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Years ago I subscribed to this theory also but since then I have learned differently.

OK, So I'm a few years behind you. So as to save me a lot of trouble down the road, what other theories have you previously subscribed to and since changed your thinking?

[Autumn Daze]

Edgar, I didn't mean that statement in a disparaging way. I hope I didn't offend. I find this Parker thing a constant learning experience. I will reveal the other "theories" as they appear. One of them that has been on my mind lately is the obvious difference in the style of trap forends.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

I didn't mean that statement in a disparaging way. I hope I didn't offend.

Don't be rediculous