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I talked with the seller about his listing the first day...his add does not mentioning the fact that the makers case is not there. I advized him to make a note of this and add it to his description but he never did.....He does not want bidders to know its not there. The winner may not even know till after he wins and gun is shiped without it....bummer. Other than that seems like a nice gun. thanks all SXS ohio....(-: