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Unread 09-12-2021, 01:06 PM   #1
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Same with Toyota 4x4's, many of the used one's at the dealer are priced higher than the MSRP for a new one on the Toyota website. Word on the street is new ones start at $2500 over MSRP and go up from there if they can find one.
I bought a Toyota TRD Pro 4 Runner last year, sticker was something like $53,500. They gave it to me for several grand off the sticker, plus gave me $16,000 on a 300,000 mile BASE model Tundra that I paid $18,000 for 8 years ago, used. They called me last month and offered me $53,500 for my 26,000 mile TRD 4 Runner. What? This world is $!#*! nuts. I said, "Well then I have nothing to drive," to which they said, "We have a nice used Prius you can buy..."
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Speaking of Toyota trucks… If anyone is wanting a Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD package, my brother has a 2018 or 2019 (I cannot recall) with only 4,000 miles on it!
He bought it new and 6 months later got a job with a company vehicle. So every since it has just sat in his garage. He would sell it if the price is right. He is in Hartford, CT.
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Speaking of Toyota trucks… If anyone is wanting a Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD package, my brother has a 2018 or 2019 (I cannot recall) with only 4,000 miles on it!
He bought it new and 6 months later got a job with a company vehicle. So every since it has just sat in his garage. He would sell it if the price is right. He is in Hartford, CT.

I’ll trade him 5K primers and an 8 lb of PB!!!
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I think all components will be short for a long while. The manufacturers can make more money selling completed shells than simple components.
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Went to 2 gun shows this weekend. One had no 209 primers at all, the other had 1 sleeve of a 100 primers for $15.00. Almost no powder and very little shotgun shells. I was lucky and got 8 boxes of 20ga Winchester AA 7/8oz 7 1/2 for $70.00.
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I was lucky to run into a 1000 primer box of Winchester 209's and a pound of universal and AA Super Handicap at a local gun shop. That is the maximum I could purchase for the day, 2lbs of powder and I brick of primers.
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Who ever thought it would come to this? Just posted to Facebook

RST is at Hausmann Hidden Hollows Sporting Clays.
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Thank you to the Vintage Gunners for providing powder so we could load shells for the SxS Championship this week. There is a limited supply, so we will have a limit of 3 boxes of shells to make it fair.
Hope to see a lot of you there.
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RST is at Hausmann Hidden Hollows Sporting Clays.
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Thank you to the Vintage Gunners for providing powder so we could load shells for the SxS Championship this week. There is a limited supply, so we will have a limit of 3 boxes of shells to make it fair.
Hope to see a lot of you there.


When I spoke to Morris at Rock Mountain he said that Powder was their issue. They cannot get it from anywhere, even overseas. He said that some of their larger Texas ranch and game preserve customers were dipping into their hoards and sending them powder so that they could load shells to sell them.

So, the above for the VGC goes right in line with this scenario.
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When I spoke to Morris at Rock Mountain he said that Powder was their issue. They cannot get it from anywhere, even overseas. He said that some of their larger Texas ranch and game preserve customers were dipping into their hoards and sending them powder so that they could load shells to sell them.

So, the above for the VGC goes right in line with this scenario.
A sad state of affairs with no apparent end in sight Brian. The RST rep told me the same thing at Hausmann's in June, powder was their issue, no problem getting primers because they were getting primed hulls directly from Cheddite.
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A sad state of affairs with no apparent end in sight Brian. The RST rep told me the same thing at Hausmann's in June, powder was their issue, no problem getting primers because they were getting primed hulls directly from Cheddite.
If the powder manufacturer is working at capacity and supply chain is the problem then there must be a stuffed warehouse waiting on a truck to a distributer.
If so must Mr. Baker wait on the distributer or can he send his truck to the makers warehouse? The whole situation is baffling if all involved are telling the truth then a hell of a lot of product is in limbo and that means a lot of money from sales not made. This unrealized income has to be hurting all involved and it seems to have spread beyond the shooting sports to most of the economy.
I have no answer just a lot of questions as to why these products, if made can not be forwarded to the end user. Ammo makers want to sell the product to make a profit and i would think if i were in that situation i would find a way.
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