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Unread 12-15-2019, 06:37 PM   #1
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Untouched original is the gun that has never been back to the factory. A gun can only be original once regardless of the wear. Factory refreshed is a gun that was returned to Parker for either mechanical or finish refresh and is documented. A restored gun is a gun either mechanically repaired or refinish by other than the factory (or not factory documented) using the correct methods. A refinished gun is a gun done without regard to correct methods.
I prefer original guns but I have many guns with some undocumented restoration. As an example I picked up a very nice original DH 20ga all original except it had a large ugly scrape 1 inch by 3/4 inch long like it was dropped on a cement walkway. If I was alive during the Parker factory era I would have sent it back to be re-blacked. I had the barrels re-blackened using the proper methods. The gun is no longer original but restored but much more appealing in my opinion. After a few years of wear it will be impossible to tell. Hence I believe many of the guns we shoot today and consider original there is a high likelihood they are not.
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My definition of original means the gun retains the exact same finishes as it left the factory originally. If a Parker is changed in any way (i.e. refreshed, refinished, restored, etc.) regardless of who did the work - whether it be the factory or whomever, the gun is no longer original.
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My definition of original means the gun retains the exact same finishes as it left the factory originally. If a Parker is changed in any way (i.e. refreshed, refinished, restored, etc.) regardless of who did the work - whether it be the factory or whomever, the gun is no longer original.
So my VHE 20/32 that was ordered as a 20/28 then sent back to Parker and refitted with 32” barrels would not be original?

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So my VHE 20/32 that was ordered as a 20/28 then sent back to Parker and refitted with 32” barrels would not be original?

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IF the finishes are original to the gun, why in the world would this factory gun not be considered original?
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IF the finishes are original to the gun, why in the world would this factory gun not be considered original?
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So my VHE 20/32 that was ordered as a 20/28 then sent back to Parker and refitted with 32” barrels would not be original?

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Jay, I kind of figured someone might find an example that would prove my personal definition is flawed. It's hard to tell from your wording if your gun is now a 2-bbl. set or not with your use of the word refitted vs. a gun that was retrofitted with another set of bbls. If, it indeed is a 2-bbl. set, then of course it would would fit the definition of original--providing nothing was done to either set of bbls. or finishes to the gun in any way since leaving the factory. If, the original 28" set is missing and a new set of 32" bbls. was added at the factory, I guess it's whatever definition of original you subscribe to.
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