Reviewing the reloading data above; these are some hefty loads by today's standards. If Mr. Guy has a vintage 1870's lifter gun I would advise him to consider reloading Black Powder into brass hulls. Make sure that the hulls fit his chambers then find some vintage reloading tools. I have loaded 12 ga. BP on the kitchen table while my wife reads the morning paper. (It's that easy with hand tools).
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