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[Autumn Daze]

From what I have heard black powder destroys the hulls.I am interested to know the outcome of your testing.

[Mike Stahle]

Calvin, "Could a person use smokeless powder" I would think so,
I'm still playing around with BP haven't gotten over into smokeless
as of yet. I would like to pick up an old hand roll crimper one of
these days and try my hand at loading paper shells with smokeless.

Dave, "From what I have heard black powder destroys the hulls."
I have heard this as well. I will indeed let you know how it works out.
I'm not going to run those two rounds through the Parker. I have
an old test gun for this.

[Harry Collins]

I am at work and don't have my reference material with me, however when Hammer Doubles was making brass that would take 209 primers their loading data with fiber wads and over shot card took more powder to get the same velocity. The pressures were alot lower as well. If I can remember when I get off the tractor tonight, I will post what 12 gauge data I have for fiber wads. Balistics Products "Mighty Ten" manual has fiber wad data for the 10 gauge if I remember correctly. Again, I will try to look it up if I can remember between now and this evening.

Harry

[Mike Stahle]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

I am at work and don't have my reference material with me, however when Hammer Doubles was making brass that would take 209 primers their loading data with fiber wads and over shot card took more powder to get the same velocity. The pressures were alot lower as well. If I can remember when I get off the tractor tonight, I will post what 12 gauge data I have for fiber wads. Balistics Products "Mighty Ten" manual has fiber wad data for the 10 gauge if I remember correctly. Again, I will try to look it up if I can remember between now and this evening.

Harry

Thanks Harry,
I for one would be very interested in this info.

Mike

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, what kind of powder are you using in the shells that last 15 loadings? Do you use a resizer to get past the industrial shell brass or do you peel the brass away?

[10ga Hammer]

FWIW, Plastic hulls mentioned about halfway down the page.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

[Mike Stahle]

Originally Posted by Robert Rambler

FWIW, Plastic hulls mentioned about halfway down the page.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

Thanks Robert,

I will add the Paragraph from the web site.

"Plastic Shells. Plastic shells get sort of melted on the inside when fired with black powder and will not take a crimp after about 2 or 3 firings. Just accept it and throw them away. Paper shells work fine; they were originally designed for black powder.
I normally use plastic. It is easier to obtain and is easier to trim and crimp."

Now if you'r like me I am like the Charlie Daniels song, “The Legend Of Wooley Swamp”

But I couldn't believe it. I just had to find out for myself.
And I couldn't conceive it 'Cause I never would have listened
to nobody else.

[charlie cleveland]

bill i am using alliant blue dot powder.the 8 ga winschester shells were resized by tom armbrust. he has adye that will compress the brass in one step.a guy used to sell these resizer but alas he no longer makes them to sell. i tried to get one from him but no luck. tom arbrust sells these shells at a really good price.bill he has a good book out about 8 ga and 4 bore guns and ammo.it has a lot of reloading stuff in there for the big guns. charlie ps. ive probly shot arond 500 of the loads in a parker hammer gun and destreys old fa lommis.