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bill you certainly owned your share of differant frame sizes in 8 ga s..i too kept up with the 8 gas that i run across on the net and auction sites..most of the frames i came across were 7 frames a few 6 frames but never a 5 frame..would have liked to have seen that 5 frame for sure.the 2 old parker 8 ga s i have are 7 frames hope to add a 6 frame shortly...charlie