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Mr. Hause keep them coming. I wish I could talk to you in person about Damascus steel. I have been trying to model 3 iron Damascus on the computer but takes a lot of head scratching figuring out where the pattern comes from. I believe the swirls result from flattening out the twisted iron rods. I assume that the helix of the twisted rods would turn into swirls when the rods are pounded out flat.