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frank thats a mighty good looking 5 frame...is it possibls for all those that have 5 frame guns to post the weight of there guns to compare with 8 ga...boy if i could order a new parker a 10 ga 5 frame would have my name on it...some one posted a picture a while back of a 10 ga hammerless with 40 inch barrels i wonder if this was the other 5 frame gun... this trips my trigger talking about the rarer stuff... charlie