INVINCIBLES - Page 4

Hammer Gun · 09-01-2009, 07:55 PM

These guns are found in some strange places, The Pratt A1 was found in an upstairs closet by his daughter after his death. complete with case and extra set of barells. Since his daughter did not know anything about guns she asked the family attorney what if anything it was worth, wrong! He did some checking with some people (can not say who) and promptly, and I am sure grudgingly gave her a check for 15,000 I still have a copy of that check. This was in the seventies. So there are guns out, just waiting to be found. Just thought I would share this tidbit Gary

Bill Murphy · 09-01-2009, 08:26 PM

My gosh, for the fourth time this year, I agree with Bruce Day. Yup, the #200,000 was never really missing as suggested in Johnson, the earlier "missing" thing about this gun is still a mystery, although a minor one. Of all people, George Lander shouldn't refer to the Bo Whoop thing as a "controversy" since he is the person who claims to know where it is and who owns it. If there is a controversy, he started it. Who is he referring to when he says "someone here"?? He is the someone here, or there. OK, George, are you bringing Bo Whoop to the Vintagers this year? I missed it the last time you brought it.

Gill Frye · 09-01-2009, 08:36 PM

Yeah, a couple of years ago I was talking to a customer and shotguns came up, turned out he had a nice VH 28 ga., three years later and it was mine. One thing for sure is it never hurts to be nice to people.

James Brown · 09-01-2009, 08:40 PM

Mr. Lander, check your PM.
James

DoubleOframe · 09-01-2009, 09:24 PM

Another picture of the lot (from the serialization book via google book search). Why dont I ever find guns like these in closets??

Blind Dog · 09-01-2009, 10:23 PM

I'm surprised this hasn't shown up on this thread yet. 5 or 6 years ago I was visiting the DelGrego shop in Ilion for the first time and Larry was putting this neophite in awe by showing me a number of engraving tracings and original Parker parts and pieces. Among the parts and pieces was a frame forging which may or may not have been intended for Invincible IV. The forging had no "counter-sink" for the hinge pin and some other unusual features not found on a standard Parker frame forging. I know there are others here (Bill M. and Kevin M. ?) who have seen or are aware of this item and would know more about it than I would. How about it.

Dean Romig · 09-01-2009, 10:42 PM

Fred, do you remember if it had the "clips" on the outsides of the breech balls?

VH20 · 09-02-2009, 12:38 AM

Regarding Bruce's post #31 about stolen guns being reclaimed by past owners from current ones, there was a story I read many years ago written by a man who had just such a thing happen. The memory is fuzzy, but I believe he bought an A grade gun at a very low price. He had a nagging feeling it was suspect, but bought it anyway. He didn't go to any great lengths to keep his gun private. Eventually, FBI agents showed up at his door one day asking to see the gun. They had concrete proof that the gun was indeed stolen. I think it had belonged to a Colonel? who was in the process of moving. The entire moving van got stolen along with all of his possessions packed within, including the AH(E?). The current owner had to surrender it without compensation. I don't recall if he took action against the seller. Does anyone remember this, and if I remembered details wrong please correct them.

Jim

Robert Delk · 09-02-2009, 12:50 AM

The gun was an A1 Special and it belonged to a general grade officer who had it stolen. Gun was advertised as a C grade and the guy got it for 1000 or 1200. When he wrote Remington trying to get some history they alerted the FBI.Seems the general was pretty savvy and told Remington to be on the look out if someone inquired about the gun.

Bruce Day · 09-02-2009, 08:22 AM

At least one of these people who post here asking how much a gun is worth stole the gun and was seeking to sell it in a hurry. One of our Georgia members found that out and had to return the Parker. At least he was able to get his money back but the law does not require that. I'm suspicious of these people who have a nice Parker and say they know nothing about it and want to know how much it is worth. I know we have members privately emailing them and seeking to buy these guns and make a deal in the parking lot. Caveat emptor.